loopingMADNESS

[breakdown]

WOA that's a big image!

I had one of those and I have the larger version.

Pros:
Great sound quality
relatively easy to use right out of the box
is small
can has 2ndary controller

Cons:
I don't like the way the 2 loops are situated signal chain wise [for my setup]
too much multi-function with the controls.
is small...

It's a cool little box, it just didn't work with my stereo setup the way I wanted... I gave it to my drummer to play with...

Swapped it for a smaller image.

What do you mean by where the loops are in the signal chain? How is that be different from the larger version (or any other looper for that matter)? What would the additional exp/controller be used for? And what does the usb do (same as ditto to save/load loops?)?

[voerking]

i replaced the janky foot switches on my Ditto X2 with the fancy Lehle switches & i am extremely happy that my Ditto finally is consistently usable!
they are kinda pricey, but they are are extremely high quality (and they cost a lot less than an entirely new looper).
https://www.lehle-components.com/en/leh ... h-btn.html

[Blackened Soul]

What do you mean by where the loops are in the signal chain? How is that be different from the larger version (or any other looper for that matter)? What would the additional exp/controller be used for? And what does the usb do (same as ditto to save/load loops?)?

My setup is stereo bi-amped so there is a bass chain and treble chain that go to separate amps. My needs are a looper that I an easily loop both channels independent of each other sonically but tied together timing wise.

the infinity 2 can do this, but that is not what it's really intended for. I bought it before I had a super clear idea of the looper needed...

Infinity 2 is a hi-fi stereo double looper designed to be the ultimate writing, arranging and performing tool. It can be utilized as a double looper to record and perform sequential parts, or as a standard looper on the right footswitch while assigning one of five selectable modes to the left footswitch. As a double looper, Infinity 2 enables musicians to seamlessly switch between loops, even during initial recording or while overdubbing. As a standard looper plus assignable effects, Infinity 2 becomes an ambient dream machine.

The infinity 1 can do basically anything I need...

As to the usb.. I keep meaning to mess with this but haven't yet.. the manuals for the pedals explain this pretty well.
https://www.pigtronix.com/uploads/pigtr ... manual.pdf
https://www.pigtronix.com/pedals/infinity-looper/

The remote: Pigtronix SPL-R Infinity Looper Remote Switch

The Infinity Remote Switch is a dual momentary switch designed to complement the Infinity Looper pedal. Unleashing the full potential of the Pigtronix Infinity Looper, this compact remote switch provides access to UNDO / REDO and REVERSE functionality as well as a few other hidden features.

UNDO / REDO: When an overdub is in the process of being recorded (Loop LED is orange), pressing the UNDO switch will cause the Infinity to permanently erase that overdub at the end of the current loop cycle. Any material from previous overdubs that has already been merged with the initial recording will not be undone. When an overdub has been recorded and closed (Loop LED is green), pressing the UNDO switch will remove that overdub instantly and retains the overdub for REDO if desired. Any material from previous overdubs that has already been merged with the initial recording will not be undone.

REVERSE : Pressing the REVERSE button means that REVERSE playback will be started at the beginning of the next loop cycle. Pressing REVERSE also works during the initial recording of a loop. Once you are in REVERSE playback, pressing the REVERSE button means that playback will go forwards at the beginning of the next loop cycle. Once you are in REVERSE playback, you can use the UNDO switch to flip flop back and forth between forwards and reverse versions of the same layer instantly. Hitting REVERSE and then UNDO before the end of the loop cycle will cancel the REVERSE command.

REC->OVERDUB->PLAY: In response to numerous customer requests, we have implemented a feature that allows you to go directly from recording the base layer, straight into overdub mode. Once you have started the base layer recording, simply press the UNDO switch to close your initial loop and go straight into playback with overdub active. Press the appropriate Loop footswitch as you normally would to close the overdub when desired and begin regular playback.

INSTANT CLEAR: When one or both loops are stopped, hitting UNDO will trigger an instant erase of the currently armed loop. This lets you simply leave the unit in ALL mode and retain the option to clear individual loops by pressing the UNDO switch after the desired loop has been stopped.

VARISPEED: To activate Varispeed mode, press and hold the REVERSE switch for two seconds. Depending on the sample rate used during loop recording, Varispeed can play back loops up or down any interval from a minor second to a perfect octave. The default Interval selection is one octave, enabling REVERSE and UNDO to double-speed and half-speed recorded audio respectively.

[gila_crisis]

The USB on the Infinity 1 is for firmware update and preset/loop management via the Infinity Application programm.
The cool thing is that I use that so that I can have different presets on the Infinity not preloaded with loops, but programmed differently.

For example you could setup the presets like this:
- Preset 0: standard default factory preset
- Preset 1: for ambient looping preset with non-synched loops, aging on expression pedal, fade out stop, pitch up/down in 1 octave steps
- Preset 2: synched loops, 4x multiplier on loop 2, varispeed on exp. pedal, immediate stop, pitch/up down in 5th steps
.... etc...

Of course with the app you can also preload loops/samples on the unit.
To me the Infinity is best used together with the aux switch so that you have full control over the unit and an expression pedal.
I do use it with a Dsaster Area Midi Bady 3 controller, so that I can have advanced control via Midi.

[dubkitty]

I was looking at the Infinity 2, but that sequential loops thing put me off because that's the exact opposite of how i use two loopers. the Ditto+ also is like this. thus, here i am with two Ditto2s.

[Blackened Soul]

I almost got the big ditto but a few months ago sweet water had a half price sale on the inifinity

[resincum]

the infinity 2 seems pretty dope. I'm kind of confused about it after reading the manual, tho lol. anyone tried the RC-500? seems like you get hella freaky with the assign functions.

[gila_crisis]

A friend in the US got one, and he's happy with it. But I don't like that you have 2 loops, but you can use only one at the time (and it doesn't have a Reverse...). It's more oriented to verses/chorus, sing-a-song looping... hence I still better like the functionality of the older Infinity 1 (which has midi in, that I use with a mini controller to toggle few its functions).

The RC500 looks dope. I never messed with one, but if it had a loop decay/feedback function I would really consider it.
I also wonder about the midi... I yet have to see a midi mapping for it.
Boss loopers are bullet proof units IMHO. I have a RC3 (which I use for backing-tracks playback and for my noise stuff) and it's serving me since ages perfectly.

[Dowi]

A friend in the US got one, and he's happy with it. But I don't like that you have 2 loops, but you can use only one at the time (and it doesn't have a Reverse...). It's more oriented to verses/chorus, sing-a-song looping...

That's exactly my main complain about it. Why have 2 loops and being forced to use them alternatively? It would be a super simple and useful looper if it wasn't for this function.

Re: Boss loopers= i love them, and they're really built like tanks. I find the classic big boss-style footswitches on THE small RC series or the old RC-20/RC-30 are the best thing on a looper, I'm soo comfortable with those. I went through the manual of the new units a couple of times, and, while they are surely very flexible, they didn't clicked my GAS.

Apparently glougloufx is putting the final touches on a looper, curious to see what they come up with.

[gila_crisis]

That's exactly my main complain about it. Why have 2 loops and being forced to use them alternatively? It would be a super simple and useful looper if it wasn't for this function.

Re: Boss loopers= i love them, and they're really built like tanks. I find the classic big boss-style footswitches on THE small RC series or the old RC-20/RC-30 are the best thing on a looper, I'm soo comfortable with those. I went through the manual of the new units a couple of times, and, while they are surely very flexible, they didn't clicked my GAS.

Apparently glougloufx is putting the final touches on a looper, curious to see what they come up with.

My general statement about loopers is that... "The perfect Looper doesn't exist yet, and maybe never will".
I used to have a Looperlative LP1, which was AMAZING! But it was a huge 19" rack unit, which I controlled with a RFX midiwizard footcontroller. Not really light weight and portable...

That's why I got the Infinity. 2 stereo loops, not as deep as the LP1, but I had to compromise, and this looked like the best 2 stereo loops pedal on the market at that point (and I think still it is, if you forget few flaws) and works flawlessly for my ambient sets.
The only downside is that it has this always ON limiter, which will abruptly cut down your loop volumes when the sum of both loops surpasses a fixed threshold... that's why I never use it for noise applications (there I have a more rough setup using a Boss RC3 and a EHX1440 in series, but it's great to have veriety).

The other device that makes me sometimes wonder is the Boomerang 3. But from the paper I'm not so impressed with its general workflow, few things (like stacking/overdubbing) seams to be quite counterintuitively made.

[resincum]

word up about the RC-3. I've had one for 9 years. all 99 tracks are full, too thing is built like a tank. I plan on using it earlier in the chain for samples and drones. apparently you can fade out loops on the rc-500, but only when ending the loop, I think? whatever, I'm probably going to get one scatter seems pretty cool and being able to control the speed/quantization of loops seems fun. I want to mess with the phrases and midi/assign stuff. but I just found out about the EHX 95000 and holy shit my GAS is through the roof the ehx 22500 also looks great! damn there's a lot of loopers nowadays

[lumena]

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Just small heads up Glou-glou is making a looper. I asked on instagram... they said april, no preorders.
Hold your cards gentlemen

[le lambin]

the infinity 2 seems pretty dope. I'm kind of confused about it after reading the manual, tho lol. anyone tried the RC-500? seems like you get hella freaky with the assign functions.

I bought an RC-500 when it came out and am very happy with it. I definitely do not use it to its full potential, but as with most modern Boss products, I think it’s more of a challenge to use every feature they cram in there.

I use it a few different ways- I run guitar through the left side/loop 1 and synths/drum machines through right/loop 2, both synced via midi to a disaster area midi clock. This is cool because I don’t have to worry about remembering what is on what channel- guitar is always left, etc. less opportunities for forgetting live.

I also use it for stereo guitar on both loops, using it more like an RC-300 in that way.

Biggest pro for me is midi clock behavior- it is so easy to use with drum machines synced together. It’s very forgiving when you press the record switch as far as when recording starts- a lot of other loopers require you to hit record slightly before the downbeat. You can be pretty sloppy and still catch the downbeat which is great live obviously.

The only real gripe I have with it is there doesn’t seem to be a stop all function- as in stop all loops with one button press. There is a way to hit a button to select both tracks, and then hit another to stop both, but not a stop all/start all, which was on the rc-300 and very useful.

[breakdown]

But I don't like that you have 2 loops, but you can use only one at the time (and it doesn't have a Reverse...).

I didn't realise you couldn’t play both loops at the same time... that’s really disappointing...

[gila_crisis]

I bought an RC-500 when it came out and am very happy with it. I definitely do not use it to its full potential, but as with most modern Boss products, I think it’s more of a challenge to use every feature they cram in there.

I use it a few different ways- I run guitar through the left side/loop 1 and synths/drum machines through right/loop 2, both synced via midi to a disaster area midi clock. This is cool because I don’t have to worry about remembering what is on what channel- guitar is always left, etc. less opportunities for forgetting live.

I also use it for stereo guitar on both loops, using it more like an RC-300 in that way.

Biggest pro for me is midi clock behavior- it is so easy to use with drum machines synced together. It’s very forgiving when you press the record switch as far as when recording starts- a lot of other loopers require you to hit record slightly before the downbeat. You can be pretty sloppy and still catch the downbeat which is great live obviously.

The only real gripe I have with it is there doesn’t seem to be a stop all function- as in stop all loops with one button press. There is a way to hit a button to select both tracks, and then hit another to stop both, but not a stop all/start all, which was on the rc-300 and very useful.

great report! thanks for sharing! I was just watching Loopop demo review of it and the assign menu is very powerful!
It kind of remembers me of the midi learning on the LP1.. that reply my question about the midi mapping: you can create your own!