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Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:53 am
by KaosCill8r
daseb wrote:Orchid tone is all about P90s and the old valvestate marshalls.
I rock an old Valvestate Marshall. Not for Screamo. I play chaotic noise rock and it is awesome for that. To be honest I really don't know what Screamo is
The Valvestate amps don't really get a lot of love, which surprises me because they are solid, reliable and really loud amps. I have been giving mine a hard time for over 15 years and it's still going strong.
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:11 am
by WORMDIRT
Cheap 100 watters and shitty distortion pedals.
At least for that Neil Perry style (real screamo?)
I've been digging Tele w/ single coils -> Rat -> Peavey Supreme 160 with a moderate amount of onboard verb for my Loma Prieta/Saetia ripoff kinda stuff
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:51 am
by Ancient Astronaught
daseb wrote:I thought he used some sort of LTD Les Paul shaped thing? Was the Mascis even around before PG99 broke up? He uses/used the jazzmaster in Pygmylush and maybe Mannequin but yeah.
City of Caterpillar was at various points Les Paul, SG, or at the end both dudes had Rics. One of them used a dual rec. Bassist used a Gibson Ripper at some point before moving on to a G&L which he also used in Malady I think. I just wanted to mention Malady because that RECORD TOTALLY SLAYS.
...why do I know all this crap?
As far back as I can remember he used a white les paul and the jazzmaster the most, but he very well could have used LTD's, those guys went through gear like crazy. Listen to Document #7 all that behind the bridge string noise and at the headstock above the nut noise in the first couple tracks is definitely jazzmaster, it might not have been a mascis but he's had one for a long time. As of right now though he does use that purple mascis as you said in Pygmylush and he did use it in Mannequin and Sail (did that band of theirs even go anywhere other than locally around here?). It's really hard to nail equipment used down in a band that constantly had between 6 and 9 members at any given time that would break gear at every single show and was constantly getting new stuff.
You know CoC alot better than I remember
I dunno why you do, but how do you?
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:01 am
by lordgalvar
WORMDIRT wrote:Cheap 100 watters and shitty distortion pedals.
At least for that Neil Perry style (real screamo?)
I've been digging Tele w/ single coils -> Rat -> Peavey Supreme 160 with a moderate amount of onboard verb for my Loma Prieta/Saetia ripoff kinda stuff
Loma Prieta are big now? Weird...I played a house party with them in Fresno. I seem to remember them using teles and a carvin amp. You are actualy pretty darn close from what i remember with the verb and rat (though they may have used a boss overdrive or mt2 or something). Might be wrong though, it was like 9 years ago.
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:15 am
by BoatRich
lordgalvar wrote:WORMDIRT wrote:Cheap 100 watters and shitty distortion pedals.
At least for that Neil Perry style (real screamo?)
I've been digging Tele w/ single coils -> Rat -> Peavey Supreme 160 with a moderate amount of onboard verb for my Loma Prieta/Saetia ripoff kinda stuff
Loma Prieta are big now? Weird...I played a house party with them in Fresno. I seem to remember them using teles and a carvin amp. You are actualy pretty darn close from what i remember with the verb and rat (though they may have used a boss overdrive or mt2 or something). Might be wrong though, it was like 9 years ago.
Loma is pretty huge at this point for this scene definitely. I seem to remember teles/jazzmasters and a V4+OCD the last time I saw them? A RAT/Carvin would probably be pretty close to that in sound I'd think.
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:28 am
by lordgalvar
BoatRich wrote:Loma is pretty huge at this point for this scene definitely. I seem to remember teles/jazzmasters and a V4+OCD the last time I saw them? A RAT/Carvin would probably be pretty close to that in sound I'd think.
Neat. Good for those dudes. I don't know why we were on the same bill because it really didn't fit, but it was fun. haha. Carvins were the cheap go to amp at the time around here in California (Kustoms too). I'm sure if they've continued on and gotten bigger they've moved on from some of their old gear.
I just checked their wikipedia page and the guys that were in the band when we played together aren't even in the band anymore. It must have been around the time of their first EP.
edit: found the flyer...sorry about the sentimental post. haha.
Cool, always fun to find out about the bands around.
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Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:41 am
by BoatRich
Just going by genre descriptions that would've been a rad show! I love mixed bill shows so much, especially house shows. Nothing like playing a heavy hardcore show as a pop punk band.
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:18 am
by Muff_Diver
This thread title makes me lol every time I read it.
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:45 pm
by resincum
Muff_Diver wrote:This thread title makes me lol every time I read it.
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:50 pm
by WORMDIRT
BoatRich wrote:lordgalvar wrote:WORMDIRT wrote:Cheap 100 watters and shitty distortion pedals.
At least for that Neil Perry style (real screamo?)
I've been digging Tele w/ single coils -> Rat -> Peavey Supreme 160 with a moderate amount of onboard verb for my Loma Prieta/Saetia ripoff kinda stuff
Loma Prieta are big now? Weird...I played a house party with them in Fresno. I seem to remember them using teles and a carvin amp. You are actualy pretty darn close from what i remember with the verb and rat (though they may have used a boss overdrive or mt2 or something). Might be wrong though, it was like 9 years ago.
Loma is pretty huge at this point for this scene definitely. I seem to remember teles/jazzmasters and a V4+OCD the last time I saw them? A RAT/Carvin would probably be pretty close to that in sound I'd think.
I saw there last Gilman show.. LPs and a V4/Science Hellhawk. Couldn't see the boards though.
They're about as big as a band like that can get.
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:18 pm
by whiskey_face
not trolling but can someone explain screamo and skramz to me?
please don't tell me screamo is just emo from the early 2000s where itstead of 'WHAA boo HOOO" bitching with an acoustic, now youre screaming about that dumb bitch that broke your heart?
and whats skramz? fuck I cant keep up.
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:39 pm
by BoatRich
whiskey_face wrote:not trolling but can someone explain screamo and skramz to me?
please don't tell me screamo is just emo from the early 2000s where itstead of 'WHAA boo HOOO" bitching with an acoustic, now youre screaming about that dumb bitch that broke your heart?
and whats skramz? fuck I cant keep up.
Skramz and screamo are different terms for the same thing because of said early 2000's bands. It's basically really fast, heartfelt, and often weird hardcore. Or at least that's how I think of it. All of the bands mentioned in this thread are a good start, and if you're into stuff like atmospheric black metal, post rock, and post hardcore you'd probably be into it.
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:40 pm
by frigid midget
KaosCill8r wrote:daseb wrote:Orchid tone is all about P90s and the old valvestate marshalls.
I rock an old Valvestate Marshall. Not for Screamo. I play chaotic noise rock and it is awesome for that. To be honest I really don't know what Screamo is
The Valvestate amps don't really get a lot of love, which surprises me because they are solid, reliable and really loud amps. I have been giving mine a hard time for over 15 years and it's still going strong.
Used to have a 65 watt combo. My first amp, bought brand new before I had an internet to teach me the difference between a tube amp and a shitty fizzy sounding ss amp with a single preamp tube to fool silly noobs like myself
Lesson learned: Not everything with a Marshall logo on it will make you sound like Hendrix
Anyway, it didnt take long till it crapped the bed. It ended up spending more time in the shop than in my room. My buddy had the 80Watt version, which sounded equally horrible, shrill, cold, unmusical...Both the clean and the drive channel still haunt my nightmares. It didn't break as much as mine, but I remember at least two times when he had to take it to a tech cause it went silent for no apparent reason.
Don't mean to shit on your gear preferences, good for you if you like your amp. But I'm sure you figured this out by now...I'm pretty much traumatised by my valvestate experiences
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:04 pm
by lordgalvar
BoatRich wrote:whiskey_face wrote:not trolling but can someone explain screamo and skramz to me?
please don't tell me screamo is just emo from the early 2000s where itstead of 'WHAA boo HOOO" bitching with an acoustic, now youre screaming about that dumb bitch that broke your heart?
and whats skramz? fuck I cant keep up.
Skramz and screamo are different terms for the same thing because of said early 2000's bands. It's basically really fast, heartfelt, and often weird hardcore. Or at least that's how I think of it. All of the bands mentioned in this thread are a good start, and if you're into stuff like atmospheric black metal, post rock, and post hardcore you'd probably be into it.
Yea, I just looked up skramz because this thread was the first time I had heard of it. I dunno, I think we classify everything too much. haha.
Anyway, I ran across Antioch Arrow. I was trying to think of their name the other day
and I couldn't remember it for the life of me. Not really my stuff, just remember seeing these guys around. Anyway, haha, that wikipedia page had a link to noise rock (which was a "See also" link), and I didn't know some of those bands listed in the 2000s "got big" either. I feel old and like I've been asleep for 10 years
. It doesn't help that I am reading about it on wikipedia. I don't really know why it was linked to screamo though. Maybe because they were concurrent?
Re: Real Screamo gear
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:06 pm
by tremolo3
whiskey_face wrote:not trolling but can someone explain screamo and skramz to me?
please don't tell me screamo is just emo from the early 2000s where itstead of 'WHAA boo HOOO" bitching with an acoustic, now youre screaming about that dumb bitch that broke your heart?
and whats skramz? fuck I cant keep up.
Some people started to use "skramz" and "real screamo" to categorize the underground/indie screamo bands when a lot of some other people started to call screamo to mainstream/famous post-hardcore bands in the early-mid 00s.