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Wittgenstein wrote:I'm rich too mang, it sux. V V It makes me rly angsty all the time. V V like, I feel all bad cus spending all dat cash like a pos know what i mean? V V I'm like, i gotta save the $$$ for my kids and not buy more expensive gear, but then i buy the gear and even though still have tons of $$$ left for kids I'm still like wow i sux and my life sux. V V i feel u bruh i don't know what to do, i'm so listless and my life has no purpose cus of all this $$$. fuggggggg V V how can i be a real mang and bro when i have all this cash??? sux mang V V

Thanks for the intelligent insight once again.

raj007 wrote:Don't you have Toneczar stuff??? Why not make your fortune back on that and Sub em with more affordable pedals?

or, if you have an expensive Bass....downgrade to something cheaper.

You can still have plenty of gear but not be in such a poor position financially.

Good advice.

actualidiot wrote:Like, do you have a stack of pedals that are not on your board? Cause I'd go through them and sell some that aren't being used, at least that would minimize the debt and you wouldn't have to let go of your more prized possessions. Then, come November or something, you can see how you feel.

Better advice.

Invisible Man wrote:Fuckin A sell everything and start over. You'll get back to where you are now, but it'll take three years before you wind up in a financial crisis, and you'll be good until then. And very busy hunting down and flipping pedals.

Forest fires can be a good thing.

Terrible (postmodernist) """advice"""

When you painstakingly invest great time, effort & sweat equity incrementally building up a rig (or anything, taking years to get to this point) ...the loss of a full reset will be a traumatic experience, due to the likelihood of sentiment attached in of itself. With the new rig, there is no guarantee of progress or the personal growth gleaned from the old rig, just the burning desire to fill a fresh void of one's own creation. There is high probability to experience regret, as it is extremely difficult to undo a fire-sale and chase the ghosts of white whales. If you built your rig with a shopping spree, the destroy & rebuild approach isn't as traumatic an experience and you may even luck into *the perfect rig* ...but this aint T duckin GP and perfection is boring.

TL;DR It is ill-advised to use a hatchet when the task at hand calls for a scalpel.

I would identify "needs" and "wants" and see where they overlap with "gone unused for a while" then look to sell whatever can be replaced without compromise (or minimal concession). Taking a minor loss here & there is much easier to stomach than losing everything, duh


PS: Don't go into debt for gear.

Thanks for the thought out responses. Much appreciated.

I don't appreciate the asshole one, which I reported once again, but I guess it will happen.

For the record, I'm not rich. I just don't hurt financially. There's a big fucking difference.


Anyway, I'm going to see how things go for another month then decide to sell stuff if I'm not seeing tides change.

Thanks guys.

rustywire wrote:Terrible (postmodernist) """advice"""

Our band name?

Also, you can't just go around affixing 'postmodernist' to everything as a way to slag things. It doesn't mean anything. I do appreciate the subtlety of seven finger quotes, though.

Maybe I missed this, but didn't you say the debt came from stuff you don't need? Sell the stuff that you don't need?

Invisible Man wrote:

rustywire wrote:Terrible (postmodernist) """advice"""

Our band name?

Also, you can't just go around affixing 'postmodernist' to everything as a way to slag things. It doesn't mean anything. I do appreciate the subtlety of seven finger quotes, though.

We can do better re: band names [postmodern nasal drip]

And if you search my post history you'll see I don't go around affixing postmodernist to everything as a way to slag things.
But if the shoe fits...
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mathias wrote:Maybe I missed this, but didn't you say the debt came from stuff you don't need? Sell the stuff that you don't need?

That's where the attachment thing comes into play.

I have a difficult time letting go of things.

However this may be the path to go just so I have some piece of mind.

We're here to help jwar. This is why I said the bass. I also tend to keep more gear than I need so I think the piece of gear that can solve the problem the fastest should go. Kind of like ripping off a band aid.

Although I do see the argument for selling pedals. I can't imagine this stuff is going to retain it's value a few years from now (look at Ensoniq Synths). That said, I am all about expediting the problem solving process. There is a buyer who will pay said funds > Bass goes to buyer > Funds go to debt > Problem solved. My logic only works IF there is a buyer ready for the bass though.

jwar wrote:

mathias wrote:Maybe I missed this, but didn't you say the debt came from stuff you don't need? Sell the stuff that you don't need?

That's where the attachment thing comes into play.

I have a difficult time letting go of things.

However this may be the path to go just so I have some piece of mind.

I try to make myself abide by the 6 month rule. If I haven't used a piece of gear in 6 months, it's time to sell it. That time interval can be modified to suit the sensibilities of whoever is using it.

Jwar, this doesn't help with your current dilemma, but I curb my GAS by setting a monthly "hobby/gear" budget and keeping track of it in a spreadsheet. The unspent amounts roll over. It has no connection to real CC balance, just money spent that month.

So if I was looking to buy a bass, I'd have to wait for the money to roll over a number of times before I could "afford" it according to the spreadsheet.

That said, my new Science amp completely blew this approach out of the water. But for pedals, it seems to work for me.

It also forces me to spend some time prioritizing GAS, but if I've got the budget, I can still jump on a B/S/T thread if something comes up that I wasn't already planning for. This makes my GAS / shopping compulsion happy.

rustywire wrote:And if you search my post history

jwar wrote:

Wittgenstein wrote:*loud fart noise*

Thanks for the intelligent insight once again.

I'm on the other side of the Wittgenstein fence now

I know you said you're going to figure this out on your own, but I wanted to chip in my two cents. For now I'd sell the bass and the gear you don't need to pay your debts, and then focus on building a satisfying setup within a minimalist framework (boiling down your "useful" tones into a smallish setup is incredibly satisfying).

Acquiring gear sounds like a really strong addiction for you (as it is for a lot of us here)? I don't really know how to address it, but where you've dealt with other addictions in the past I'd try working on this addiction the same way you've worked on your previous ones?

You're a good guy, and it sounds like you've been having a really hard time for the last year or two. If there's anything I can do, just let me know buddy