Vitamins

[untilshewokeme]

As a person who works at the largest international distributor of sports nutrition products and is also cautious of what I put in my body, I would be happy to answer any questions you have.

Honestly though, even everyday name brand multivitamins could have weird side effects.

About to get personal with a personal story:

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So back in the day, about 10 years ago when I was a vegetarian working a boring cubicle job I started getting really tired and burnt out around 2 everyday. I started taking a Centrum multi to try help my extreme tiredness. Long story short, I started getting these crazy headache literally 15 seconds before I climaxed having sex. Every time. As soon as I stopped taking the multi, it went away. So supplements aren't the only thing to watch out for.

[resincum]

thread is awesome I'm def buying some of that illegal in other countries stuff. I've been obsessively thinking about getting healthier, but I'm a plain and dry kind of guy and love to get toasty. excersising isn't as much of an issue as my actual diet is..I'll often get by with one meal a day most of the time and I can feel it wearing on me. jwar/tillshewokemeh dietary muscular sensei,can you recommend a diet or tips so I don't go to complete shit?

[wsas3]

As a person who works at the largest international distributor of sports nutrition products and is also cautious of what I put in my body, I would be happy to answer any questions you have.

Honestly though, even everyday name brand multivitamins could have weird side effects.

About to get personal with a personal story:

NSFW: show

So back in the day, about 10 years ago when I was a vegetarian working a boring cubicle job I started getting really tired and burnt out around 2 everyday. I started taking a Centrum multi to try help my extreme tiredness. Long story short, I started getting these crazy headache literally 15 seconds before I climaxed having sex. Every time. As soon as I stopped taking the multi, it went away. So supplements aren't the only thing to watch out for.

Damn that's crazy, I often take centrum if I'm too low on cash to afford animal pak.

[untilshewokeme]

thread is awesome I'm def buying some of that illegal in other countries stuff. I've been obsessively thinking about getting healthier, but I'm a plain and dry kind of guy and love to get toasty. excersising isn't as much of an issue as my actual diet is..I'll often get by with one meal a day most of the time and I can feel it wearing on me. jwar/tillshewokemeh dietary muscular sensei,can you recommend a diet or tips so I don't go to complete shit?

Do you just not have time for meals or you just feel like you can get by on a meal and aren't hungry?

There are many things you can do for "on the go" nutrition. The basic would probably be a multi vitamin, there are so many out there but ones that offer a complex mix of vitamins, minerals, probiotics and fatty acids are better than basic stuff. Protein shakes can make you feel fuller and get you by between meals. There are "greens" supplements, basically if you aren't getting enough greens you can make another drink/shake with these (these products usually taste like shit, but Prime Nutrition makes a decent one). And then there is this new supplement called Onward, which offers immune system support and gives you a pick-me-up. It doesn't taste that great but you could mix it with a BCAA (basically like gatorade but better) to make it taste better.

[Jwar]

Also if exercise helped with testosterone, I'd be so full of test my eyes would be bulging. But for me, my test levels lower when I exercise. A lot of men have the same issue. I literally use all the test in my body during my exercises. This have been confirmed by an endocrinologist. So hormone therapy is a MUST for me if I want to feel normal. Either that or I just sit with a low level and feel like shit all day.

Again, what works for me, may not work for you and vice versa.

Well yeah you and I exercise regularly, and the results in test increase isn't a straight slope. Reason why there are huge beginner gains for people who start lifting. Your body is shocked by the stimuli, but then you exercise for months and months and those levels even out and stay the same pretty much. It's hard to say though, lot of men have them lowered during exercise then elevate afterwards and vice versa. I feel like I go between both.
The leagues you compete in don't test, or you just work around that? Or it only raises test to normal levels?

I compete in the NPC which really is the best to compete in. No offense to the "natural" guys. Whatever that means, but I come in excellent condition, where they can walk in sloppy and still win. Insane. I've seen guys in natural organization's looks like absolute shit and they get pro cards. Just so you know. The "testing" they do is not real testing. They do a piss test and a lie detector. A lot of natural guys are not natural.

Obviously the increase of test is not a straight slope. It is a curve almost. It goes up then comes down, then goes up, then comes down. That's why I'm prescribed by a doctor two shots a week. So I don't have a down period.

Also, some doctors do not know anything about exercise nutrition or exercise science in general. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say most don't. I've never met one yet that understood the science behind having anything but a food pyramid diet. At least not that practices regular medicine. Naturopathic doctors do sometimes.


Please note, the things I mention about supplements have been well studied, well tested and proven to work. I don't take anything that hasn't and don't recommend anything that hasn't. Supplements can be very, very helpful when used correctly. I'm not an expert in supplements but I am working on becoming a licensed nutritionist. So pretty soon, I'll be able to do more than make blanket statements.

[Jwar]

Diet and exercise. Exercise will help with testosterone. Test booster is fake. Just push your body consistently and see what it'll do for you before you become a slave to supps and the never-ending game of placebo BS.

I beg to differ sir. You're speaking more of homeopathic type supplements if you mean they are placebos. I have test many, many supplements and had blood work done, and they do in fact work. It's just a matter of what you take and why.

Remember. Supplements are made to supplement what you're not getting in your diet. Some things you literally cannot get enough of in your diet. IE most things. LOL

Also, saying test boosters are fake is a pretty vague as a lot of the ingredients in test boosters, especially the ones I mentioned have been medically studied and show results. They do work, but not all things work the same for all people.

I mean I take a lot of things, some multivitamins, fish oil etc. So yeah I understand the diet thing.
The thing I meant about test boosters is that it doesn't boost testosterone beyond a small amount, or else it would be called test and be illegal. it just replicates things that go hand in hand with having high test. The lower your test the more it'll hep and possibly raise it yes but that's only because you were slacking in some aspects.

See this is where you need to be careful. Some test boosters are illegal and just have not been pulled yet. You can find them at GNC and Complete Nutrition (the worst IMO). They basically sell steroids and get away with it until it's banned. I've seen them do it many, many times. I actually purchased roids (unknowingly and under a recommendation) when I was 18 from GNC. A year later it a was a banned substance. I had NO idea it was a steroid of any kind. Which is a whole nother topic I'd have to talk about. LOL. I'll not crap up this thread though.

So like I said. Research, research more and even after you start taking something continue to research it. It's the ONLY way to know what's going on. If you have the means, get blood testing done, check ups, etc.

You libido could be off because of sooooooooooo many other issues, it's unreal. Could be as simple as depression or as complex as hyperthyroidism. You just don't know until you're looked at.

[wsas3]

Also if exercise helped with testosterone, I'd be so full of test my eyes would be bulging. But for me, my test levels lower when I exercise. A lot of men have the same issue. I literally use all the test in my body during my exercises. This have been confirmed by an endocrinologist. So hormone therapy is a MUST for me if I want to feel normal. Either that or I just sit with a low level and feel like shit all day.

Again, what works for me, may not work for you and vice versa.

Well yeah you and I exercise regularly, and the results in test increase isn't a straight slope. Reason why there are huge beginner gains for people who start lifting. Your body is shocked by the stimuli, but then you exercise for months and months and those levels even out and stay the same pretty much. It's hard to say though, lot of men have them lowered during exercise then elevate afterwards and vice versa. I feel like I go between both.
The leagues you compete in don't test, or you just work around that? Or it only raises test to normal levels?

I compete in the NPC which really is the best to compete in. No offense to the "natural" guys. Whatever that means, but I come in excellent condition, where they can walk in sloppy and still win. Insane. I've seen guys in natural organization's looks like absolute shit and they get pro cards. Just so you know. The "testing" they do is not real testing. They do a piss test and a lie detector. A lot of natural guys are not natural.

Obviously the increase of test is not a straight slope. It is a curve almost. It goes up then comes down, then goes up, then comes down. That's why I'm prescribed by a doctor two shots a week. So I don't have a down period.

Also, some doctors do not know anything about exercise nutrition or exercise science in general. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say most don't. I've never met one yet that understood the science behind having anything but a food pyramid diet. At least not that practices regular medicine. Naturopathic doctors do sometimes.


Please note, the things I mention about supplements have been well studied, well tested and proven to work. I don't take anything that hasn't and don't recommend anything that hasn't. Supplements can be very, very helpful when used correctly. I'm not an expert in supplements but I am working on becoming a licensed nutritionist. So pretty soon, I'll be able to do more than make blanket statements.

Doctor thing is so fucking true , that's not out on a limb. I've had to lie about being a professional hockey player to get doctors to give me good advice on lifting etc other than 'don't lift'. Have had to change doctors because of it. Had a bicep strain recently, went to a doctor and he just wouldn't stop telling me to not do bench press and dips because 'it puts extraordinary amount of stress on the muscles'... like, the kind it takes to grow?

[wsas3]

Also if exercise helped with testosterone, I'd be so full of test my eyes would be bulging. But for me, my test levels lower when I exercise. A lot of men have the same issue. I literally use all the test in my body during my exercises. This have been confirmed by an endocrinologist. So hormone therapy is a MUST for me if I want to feel normal. Either that or I just sit with a low level and feel like shit all day.

Again, what works for me, may not work for you and vice versa.

Well yeah you and I exercise regularly, and the results in test increase isn't a straight slope. Reason why there are huge beginner gains for people who start lifting. Your body is shocked by the stimuli, but then you exercise for months and months and those levels even out and stay the same pretty much. It's hard to say though, lot of men have them lowered during exercise then elevate afterwards and vice versa. I feel like I go between both.
The leagues you compete in don't test, or you just work around that? Or it only raises test to normal levels?

I compete in the NPC which really is the best to compete in. No offense to the "natural" guys. Whatever that means, but I come in excellent condition, where they can walk in sloppy and still win. Insane. I've seen guys in natural organization's looks like absolute shit and they get pro cards. Just so you know. The "testing" they do is not real testing. They do a piss test and a lie detector. A lot of natural guys are not natural.

Obviously the increase of test is not a straight slope. It is a curve almost. It goes up then comes down, then goes up, then comes down. That's why I'm prescribed by a doctor two shots a week. So I don't have a down period.

Also, some doctors do not know anything about exercise nutrition or exercise science in general. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say most don't. I've never met one yet that understood the science behind having anything but a food pyramid diet. At least not that practices regular medicine. Naturopathic doctors do sometimes.


Please note, the things I mention about supplements have been well studied, well tested and proven to work. I don't take anything that hasn't and don't recommend anything that hasn't. Supplements can be very, very helpful when used correctly. I'm not an expert in supplements but I am working on becoming a licensed nutritionist. So pretty soon, I'll be able to do more than make blanket statements.

Doctor thing is so fucking true , that's not out on a limb. I've had to lie about being a professional hockey player to get doctors to give me good advice on lifting etc other than 'don't lift'. Have had to change doctors because of it. Had a bicep strain recently, went to a doctor and he just wouldn't stop telling me to not do bench press and dips because 'it puts extraordinary amount of stress on the muscles'... like, the kind it takes to grow?

[chuckjaywalk]

Yohimbe hit me like Adderal. I was a little shocked. I'm going to go really slow with this one.

[wsas3]

damn thats crazy dude, take it slow

[Jwar]

Yohimbe hit me like Adderal. I was a little shocked. I'm going to go really slow with this one.

Never did that too me. I've heard it compared to extacy though! So interesting how differently people react to things! Which brand did you get? Can you share a link?

[untilshewokeme]

Yohimbe hit me like Adderal. I was a little shocked. I'm going to go really slow with this one.

Never did that too me. I've heard it compared to extacy though! So interesting how differently people react to things! Which brand did you get? Can you share a link?

With my diet products there is usually like a 2 day loading period. Like take 1 pill a day for the first two days, and then on the 3rd day take 2 pills. Maybe he took too much the first time? That has happened around the office a few times to different people.

[Faldoe]

Vitamin B. 1000mg every day has really helped curb my anxiety. Only catch is it speeds up metabolism a bit, so I get hungry pretty early when I've normally skipped breakfast.

Will look into this. I used to take Vitamin B often but kind of stopped. My anxiety has been pretty high lately.

[Jwar]

Yohimbe hit me like Adderal. I was a little shocked. I'm going to go really slow with this one.

Never did that too me. I've heard it compared to extacy though! So interesting how differently people react to things! Which brand did you get? Can you share a link?

With my diet products there is usually like a 2 day loading period. Like take 1 pill a day for the first two days, and then on the 3rd day take 2 pills. Maybe he took too much the first time? That has happened around the office a few times to different people.

That's what I was thinking also.

But Yohimbe in itself is not a diet pill of any sort. I mean, they do put it in pre-workouts a lot but I actually avoid the shit like the plague because it interacts with one of the meds I'm on (I can't have grapefruit either. How dumb is that???). I have take it though, many, many times. No ill side effects. I'm pretty lucky in that respect. I hardly ever get bad side effects from things.

I remember I bought some and let a guy at the gym I worked at have the rest of a bottle I had. He took like 2x's the normal dosage. He was HIGH as a kite from it. Fucked him up bad. He was sweating, his eyes were blood shot, and he was acting weird as shit. It was hilarious weird, like he was high on pot or something, but still I couldn't believe he took more than what it said. I told him what a dumbass he was. He told me that night he had sex with his wife and it was the best sex he's ever had. hahah.

I'm personally a fan of Macca more than any other natural hormone treatment. It can make women really horny, but never did that to me. Just made me feel level. I probably ought to still take it but I got tired of paying for it.

[chuckjaywalk]

I only took one day one and I was not in ideal condition (I was sleep deprived and dehydrated.) I took the second one today with dinner and it feels much better. Going to stick to one a day for a week.