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Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:42 am
by Eivind August
weed_killer wrote:
BitchPudding wrote:I too need to get outside more. I just don't. I usually just engross myself in writing music endlessly and all my time goes into that. Probably not healthy.
add writing stories/novels with writing music and I'm in the same boat. I constantly feel like everybody else is out living their lives while I'm cooped up in my room, but at the same time I have this notion that if I don't push myself into creating a constant body of creative work then I'm wasting time. I honestly can't remember the last time I didn't have any projects on the go and just...existed.
This is exactly how I feel. Writing unpublished books and recording music, all in solitude, and I feel as if I'm failing if I don't keep it up. Kinda weird, but I can't say I don't like it.

I know some likeminded musicians, and we jam and record now and again, but I think I've a problem cooperating? Like, when I'm making music alone, I work fast and I always know what to do, but it seems like most of my jams end up dead. I used to play jazz, and I like to just improvize and make grooves and shit, but when I try it with others they often don't really know what to do - I tell them which scale, and they're like "but what chords?" etc. And I feel like a douche when I wonder about jaming with "better" musicians instead of my friends.

I dunno... I know there are people somewhere that I could make cool stuff with, but I'm afraid there might be few of them in Norway?

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:18 pm
by D.o.S.
Hunt down Fenris.

Anyway, unpublished is unfinished. Once something's done, put it out.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:50 pm
by zeravla
tomlane95 wrote:
BitchPudding wrote:I too need to get outside more. I just don't. I usually just engross myself in writing music endlessly and all my time goes into that. Probably not healthy.
i dunno man, writing is pretty good! at least you are creating something with your time, i havent written a song in over a year, i always found it tricky, especialy alone but i have lost all my confidence, it fucking sucks
there are certainly worse ways to spend your time
I totally relate to the losing confidence part. I moved away from all the people I used to collaborate with a few years ago and got stuck working by myself for a year or so. Since then I've met some really interesting musicians but I've lost my confidence and it makes me really nervous to try and start playing with someone new. Add to that all the bits and pieces of music I start but then get stuck on because I'm unsure of myself and used to working with someone else and I feel like I've been spinning my wheels. I never thought "losing my confidence" would be something that would cause so much trouble.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:07 pm
by goroth
Eivind August wrote:
weed_killer wrote:
BitchPudding wrote:I too need to get outside more. I just don't. I usually just engross myself in writing music endlessly and all my time goes into that. Probably not healthy.
add writing stories/novels with writing music and I'm in the same boat. I constantly feel like everybody else is out living their lives while I'm cooped up in my room, but at the same time I have this notion that if I don't push myself into creating a constant body of creative work then I'm wasting time. I honestly can't remember the last time I didn't have any projects on the go and just...existed.
This is exactly how I feel. Writing unpublished books and recording music, all in solitude, and I feel as if I'm failing if I don't keep it up. Kinda weird, but I can't say I don't like it.

I know some likeminded musicians, and we jam and record now and again, but I think I've a problem cooperating? Like, when I'm making music alone, I work fast and I always know what to do, but it seems like most of my jams end up dead. I used to play jazz, and I like to just improvize and make grooves and shit, but when I try it with others they often don't really know what to do - I tell them which scale, and they're like "but what chords?" etc. And I feel like a douche when I wonder about jaming with "better" musicians instead of my friends.

I dunno... I know there are people somewhere that I could make cool stuff with, but I'm afraid there might be few of them in Norway?
I know an awesome drummer in Oslo who might be down to jam. He probably knows some other dudes too.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:37 pm
by weed_killer
D.o.S. wrote:Hunt down Fenris.

Anyway, unpublished is unfinished. Once something's done, put it out.
Do you consider putting words/music up on wordpress/bandcamp sites as publishing, or does it have to entail outside labels? If it's the former than I agree, but if its
the latter than that can be a more difficult scenario.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:41 pm
by BitchPudding
I just put out whatever I record and very rarely do I decide something is crap. The whole process of writing and releasing music is the one thing I would say I have a talent for, so I. Want to nurture it as much as possible. I'm just lucky that recently it's payed off and I've gotten some attention for being a "fucking awesome bassist" (even if behndy is fucking GOD on dat bass). But I do this for me. The whole process of creating stuff is like therapy for me. It's my way of getting the shit out that I can't deal with just by talking to someone. It's the most effective way of dealing with some of my darker demons.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:42 pm
by Eivind August
goroth wrote:
Eivind August wrote:
weed_killer wrote:
BitchPudding wrote:I too need to get outside more. I just don't. I usually just engross myself in writing music endlessly and all my time goes into that. Probably not healthy.
add writing stories/novels with writing music and I'm in the same boat. I constantly feel like everybody else is out living their lives while I'm cooped up in my room, but at the same time I have this notion that if I don't push myself into creating a constant body of creative work then I'm wasting time. I honestly can't remember the last time I didn't have any projects on the go and just...existed.
This is exactly how I feel. Writing unpublished books and recording music, all in solitude, and I feel as if I'm failing if I don't keep it up. Kinda weird, but I can't say I don't like it.

I know some likeminded musicians, and we jam and record now and again, but I think I've a problem cooperating? Like, when I'm making music alone, I work fast and I always know what to do, but it seems like most of my jams end up dead. I used to play jazz, and I like to just improvize and make grooves and shit, but when I try it with others they often don't really know what to do - I tell them which scale, and they're like "but what chords?" etc. And I feel like a douche when I wonder about jaming with "better" musicians instead of my friends.

I dunno... I know there are people somewhere that I could make cool stuff with, but I'm afraid there might be few of them in Norway?
I know an awesome drummer in Oslo who might be down to jam. He probably knows some other dudes too.
Hook me up if possible, haven't played with a rhythm section in ages.

Have been wondering whether I should start playing more of my doomy riffs to fit in with the norwegian metalheads. But I'm not that br00tal.

Love the idea of fighting your demons with art. Great way to express yourself and let things out of your system. I let out all of my music. Have tried to publish novels via blogs, but never really got into it for some reason. Still in the process of trying to get published, but it's far from easy.

I'm never bored, so at least there's that.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:10 pm
by D.o.S.
weed_killer wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:Hunt down Fenris.

Anyway, unpublished is unfinished. Once something's done, put it out.
Do you consider putting words/music up on wordpress/bandcamp sites as publishing, or does it have to entail outside labels? If it's the former than I agree, but if its
the latter than that can be a more difficult scenario.
Just put it out for public consumption. Some of my best stuff has been read by ~200 people, and some of my phoned in stuff has nabbed millions of hits. It is what it is.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:07 pm
by weed_killer
D.o.S. wrote:
weed_killer wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:Hunt down Fenris.

Anyway, unpublished is unfinished. Once something's done, put it out.
Do you consider putting words/music up on wordpress/bandcamp sites as publishing, or does it have to entail outside labels? If it's the former than I agree, but if its
the latter than that can be a more difficult scenario.
Just put it out for public consumption. Some of my best stuff has been read by ~200 people, and some of my phoned in stuff has nabbed millions of hits. It is what it is.
gotcha, that's what I figured you meant.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:37 pm
by BitchPudding
Man, this thread got really cool really quick, I must say.

Since we're talking about the creation of our art, you guys have any sort of people you look up to for inspiration when creating?

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:14 am
by weed_killer
inspiring through their output, or the content of their work? For me, most people I look up to fit both roles, i.e. somebody like PKD, Joan Didion, Richard Avedon, Man Ray,
Neil Young, etc. Depends what the current project is, but I always admire the ones who kept after themselves to create.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:52 am
by goosekevin
derrick from twiapb
just does whatever the fuck they want, put out records of bands they love, make cool pictures and songs

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:41 am
by goroth
I found the weirdest source of inspiration ever.

Michael Angelo Batio

Yes. True.
1. The wig. It looks like crap and he just fucking loves it.
2. His whole approach to the guitar. It sounds like crap but he just loves it.
Both of those qualities are pretty rad, just being enthusiastic about what you're doing and who you are.
3. I was watching a clinic of his during a night of semi-random youtube clicking, and his one piece of advice was whatever you start make sure you finish it.

I thought that was actually pretty simple and decent advice. So instead of jamming on new riffs and having fun I went back and reworked a75% complete song and finished it. And I really like the result.

Thanks MAB.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:56 am
by D.o.S.
I don't know -- so many people that I "look up to" creatively are peeps who exist in a pair of universes that is utterly foreign to me: I'm not getting paid a living wage to sit around and write a novel like Pynchon and I'm not constrained in my creative output like a David Lynch or someone else who can't find money to finance their work.

Gotta give big ups to Eugene from Oxbow, though -- he's got a day job but he still manages to output an impressive amount of creative stuff.

Re: Posting too much. Boredom. Life. Other things.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:37 pm
by zRobertez
I posted a picture of that park I was talking about in the lets see YOU thread. Even though that conversation was so 2 pages ago. A field o dreams behind me. :) http://www.ilovefuzz.com/viewtopic.php? ... 01#p833801

I don't really notice when I have inspiration. But when I get it, it's like it lasts for months, just writing and playing a couple hours a day when there's time. I don't know if I can attribute it to anything or anyone in specific, it just comes and goes. Thinking about it, I feel like it's usually more event driven, rather than by listening to someone elses music. Sometimes when I listen back on something though, I hear things that remind me of what band(s) I was listening to at the time