The Smoder Audio Proto Fuzz Drive. More clipping and tone options that you can shake a stick at. If you can't find a great fuzz tone with this box, then fuzz isn't really what you're looking for. Don't bother looking for it. Smoder's not around any more, and this is the only example of the Proto Fuzz.
Jesus, the options on that thing is giving me anxiety.
Yeah... I'm gonna have to crack open that puppy proper, and trace it out one day. I took a quick peek inside when I first got it, and it's bordering on Schumann-land. From what I recall, there's even dip switches inside, who fuckin' knows what they do.
Anyway, sorry for the highjack... carry on folks.
ThurberMingus wrote:
Derelict78 wrote:Eau Claire Thunder!
I can do you one better. Silver Rose is the ultra-ultimate-hella-assed-maximum Muff.
Dang... Silver Rose. Another one that's been on my "wish to dissect" bucket list. Good call.
No worries, hijack away mang, I'll glean what I can from it and marvel at the insanity of the rest
frigid midget wrote:
Different strokes for different folk and all that...But also: Though I obviously knew that a lot depends on your rig, just yesterday I was confronted with a MASSIVE difference when using two amps. For giggles, and to make up my mind about what'll eventually make it to my main board, I hooked up almost all my dirt pedals. Used an a/b/y box and ran everything to both a '65 Bassman head through an Ampeg SVT410hlf as well as my Traynor YBA-1 through A peavey 4x12 loaded with Jensens.
It was like night and day, the Musket for instance sounded like two completely different effects. Tons of saturation and mids from the Bassman, and a more glassy cleaner distortion from the Traynor.
My point being that even regardless of taste and musical styles, it's sometimes hard to really put value in someone review/opinion of a pedal
It's funny how we sometimes get hung up on tiny subtle differences between different Rat or Muff versions, when your amp's speakers make a LOT more difference and can totally fix or ruin whatever you like or dislike about some pedal.
So yeah, in short: The LSTR wasn't doing it for me personally, at least not on the amp I was using back than. Fwiw: Pretty sure it was a Fender Tone-Master, through a vintage Hiwatt cab.
Very true. I was most recently reminded of this when I took my board to work to show a coworker. He brought in his older Marshall DSL40 combo, which had decent enough tones on its own, but proceeded to make my whole board sound like hot garbage.
frigid midget wrote:
It's funny how we sometimes get hung up on tiny subtle differences between different Rat or Muff versions, when your amp's speakers make a LOT more difference and can totally fix or ruin whatever you like or dislike about some pedal.
so true
i'm glad i can call you a friend. even if i'll never see you again
monkeydancer wrote: including a green russian which everyone seems mad about but I didn't get the hype.
Once upon a time I would've rallied the villagers and convinced them you were a warlock...
But now not so much, vintage green muffs are ridiculously priced, and the Black Russians more so...
There are better options straight up clone wise...
And plenty of people taking it to another level aka "uber". (Which Bluebeard isn't)
Hahaha I only tried it out in a studio for a bit when my band was recording something. We did get some nice guitar tracks using it but I dunno it just didn't impress me that much. Maybe with more time or volume it could have been great.
frigid midget wrote:And contrary to the LSTR, the lower gain settings can sound just as rad.
That's surprising, I actually really liked low gain settings on the LSTR. The dark fuzzy overdrive sounds are rad.
Different strokes for different folk and all that...But also: Though I obviously knew that a lot depends on your rig, just yesterday I was confronted with a MASSIVE difference when using two amps. For giggles, and to make up my mind about what'll eventually make it to my main board, I hooked up almost all my dirt pedals. Used an a/b/y box and ran everything to both a '65 Bassman head through an Ampeg SVT410hlf as well as my Traynor YBA-1 through A peavey 4x12 loaded with Jensens.
It was like night and day, the Musket for instance sounded like two completely different effects. Tons of saturation and mids from the Bassman, and a more glassy cleaner distortion from the Traynor.
My point being that even regardless of taste and musical styles, it's sometimes hard to really put value in someone review/opinion of a pedal
It's funny how we sometimes get hung up on tiny subtle differences between different Rat or Muff versions, when your amp's speakers make a LOT more difference and can totally fix or ruin whatever you like or dislike about some pedal.
So yeah, in short: The LSTR wasn't doing it for me personally, at least not on the amp I was using back than. Fwiw: Pretty sure it was a Fender Tone-Master, through a vintage Hiwatt cab.
Very good point, other people's impressions on the subtleties between different versions of the same fuzz don't necessarily have any relevance to your rig.
frigid midget wrote:
It's funny how we sometimes get hung up on tiny subtle differences between different Rat or Muff versions, when your amp's speakers (guitar/pickups/amp/playing style) make a LOT more difference and can totally fix or ruin whatever you like or dislike about some pedal.
Some of the best input here (italicized section added by me.)
They're all the best because Big Muffs are the best.
On topic, though, if you're actually looking for "fuzz not distortion" the Supercollider will not fit the bill for what you're looking for, even though it is sex (and doom) in a box. Badascan doesn't really shine until/unless you're playing with other people but its the tits.
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D.o.S. wrote:They're all the best because Big Muffs are the best.
On topic, though, if you're actually looking for "fuzz not distortion" the Supercollider will not fit the bill for what you're looking for, even though it is sex (and doom) in a box. Badascan doesn't really shine until/unless you're playing with other people but its the tits.
I'll agree with that first bit for sure. I've never been without a muff once I found them.
Supercollider is more distortion, huh? Bummer, since they are so well regarded. The Badascan is appealing because it's like a 'Pharoh but MOAR' and allegedly needs somewhat less volume to bring the goods - care to comment on that?
Royal Beaver is very tweakable, but always within the same range of smoove Triangleosity.
I really like the sound of the Blunderbuss--much more than the Musket--I think it's the asymmetrical clipping.
I was never sold on Pharaoh, but I am very Badascan curious.
One of my favorite Muffy thangs evar was a Whisker Biscuit--Bazz Fuss with BMP tone stack.
Also really like the all-Germanium Montgomery Appliances Badlands for a different fuzzy flavor.
And Gnomeratron just rules so hard, but quickly goes way beyond Muffy SHores.
Currently eyeing a Shoe Pedals Ancient Astronaut (which is kind've like a tamer Crowther Prunes and Custard) which has a switchable mode to his "Robert" which is a Triangle Muffy thing.
I need to go back and better comprehend OP's intention though and then edit this splooge.
"In a moment of unparalleled genius, Noel Parachute headed off this potential disaster by unplugging the microphone."
Dandolin wrote:Royal Beaver is very tweakable, but always within the same range of smoove Triangleosity.
I really like the sound of the Blunderbuss--much more than the Musket--I think it's the asymmetrical clipping.
I was never sold on Pharaoh, but I am very Badascan curious.
One of my favorite Muffy thangs evar was a Whisker Biscuit--Bazz Fuss with BMP tone stack.
Also really like the all-Germanium Montgomery Appliances Badlands for a different fuzzy flavor.
And Gnomeratron just rules so hard, but quickly goes way beyond Muffy SHores.
Currently eyeing a Shoe Pedals Ancient Astronaut (which is kind've like a tamer Crowther Prunes and Custard) which has a switchable mode to his "Robert" which is a Triangle Muffy thing.
I need to go back and better comprehend OP's intention though and then edit this splooge.
How did the Blunderbuss differ from the Musket?
The Whisker Biscuit sounds interesting, as does the Ancient Astronaut.
Musket feels smoother, tighter, but less open on chords. Blunderbuss has more sizzle and edge on tha attack--feels a little more like a fuzzface or other transistor clipping fuzz in some ways or a hybrid of the two.
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"In a moment of unparalleled genius, Noel Parachute headed off this potential disaster by unplugging the microphone."
LSTR was cool when I had it in that double BAT pedal, but it didn't really go well with the Pharoah in an A/B switching situation.
Blunderbuss is fucking awesome, more raw than the Musket which can sound kind of dull and grey in comparison.
ARC Big Green is also awesome, although I am biased my Tall Font is more on the fuzzstortion side of muffland and Aaron expanded on it with the 3 way tone switch for mids.
Don't bother looking for it. Smoder's not around any more, and this is the only example of the Proto Fuzz.
