ATTN: Parents!

[neonblack]

Please pm me. I have a question I dont want to ask publicly.

[Chankgeez]

I used to have a cat. Does that count?

[neonblack]

PM'ed!

[spacelordmother]

Don't worry, it's just a phase.

[neonblack]

[doommeow]

No, it doesn't matter how many cabs you have. You can't 'sacrifice' them and call it 'character building'.

[neonblack]

OK, I'll just ask it: is it immoral to force a kid to learn an instrument in exchange for food?

"OK, son. If you get those blast beats down, you can eat today."

[futuresailors]

No. That's some life lesson shit right there.

[snipelfritz]

Front to back.

[Iommic Pope]

If you want them to hate metal and become a teetotaling right wing conservative, yes.

Just let them gravitate on their own.
Generally you'll know if you've got a prospective drummer.
It sort of feels like they could either be a front rower (rugby) or a drummer.

[skullservant]

I've had a few talks with my wife about after our son is here, and about hobbies and stuff. I said it would be AWESOME if he got into music, or art, because I could relate to it, but that if he was into sports, or theater, or dance, or whatever else, I'd still support it. But I won't force him to do participate in any sort of hobby that he doesn't want to

[Iommic Pope]

Yeah skulls, you gotta go with them. It's tough for a lot of parents because they have a lot of hangups about how their olds did it with them and try to live vicariously through their own kids. Dads I think get it rough because we want to pass on what we know, especially to sons, but if we don't have knowledge in that area, we have to bow out. It takes away from the "infallible dad" thing. But, good dads do what is necessary and what is right.

Not that blasts aren't necessary or right.
They should be mandatory in early childhood music, in my opinion. Along with as much weird shit as possible. From Mongolian harmonic singing to drone and experimental. This notion that kids should start with classical is horse shit.

[skullservant]

Yep. My wife echoed the sentiment that as long as he is doing SOMETHING productive, we don't really care what it is, and I like that stance.

I agree about the music though. I was raised on so many different sounds when I was little. Country, Motown, Grunge, and fucking Anthrax (thanks dad) which I think really opened my mind up later for different music and sounds

[Iommic Pope]

Yeah man, kids minds are amazing. Don't gum em up with this notion that there's one way the world works. The other day my wife and I were discussingthe merits and pitfalls of teaching kids to lie and manipulate. It's not something I want to do, but I've been thinking, the way the world is, are these things going to be part of a skillset when they grow up? There are parents that actively engage in this and while I'm sickened, it seems that these behaviors, while despised by most, are rewarded with opportunities. Is it wrong to deprive kids of an advantage for the sake of morality?
Personally, I think teaching them to detect and destroy bullshit is about as far as I'll get with that.
But it does make me wonder.

[skullservant]

Personally, I think teaching them to detect and destroy bullshit is about as far as I'll get with that.

That's how I feel about it too. I don't want my child to think lying is OK, but I do want them to be aware of it to be able to deal with it if it happens to them.