The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[AngryGoldfish]

So I found the perfect drummer on craigslist, but he has one HUGE downside.... he's still in highschool... if his skills are there is it worth taking the time to perfect the music, and record an album while he finishes school and then go touring? or do you think it would be a trainwreck waiting to happen? The first serious band I joined I was about 12 years younger than the rest of the members and it worked out pretty good actually, so I don't think its that obscure, and younger people have a tendency to be able to get out more people to shows. So I dunno, am I nuts or should I give the guy a chance?

It could work really well if the guy has a good head on his shoulders. I'm ten years older than my bassist and 8 years older than the other guitarist. Matt (guitar) is my musical soulmate, so I don't think age is that big of a deal unless his mom still has the umbilical cord attached and he's into trivial high school bullshit still. Hope it works out, because if its anything like drummers around here its slim pickins for sure.

We went through something similar before we found Ryder to take the throne. I decided that under 21 just wasn't a good idea. I know you can play bars with and underage musician but they can't be in there when they are not performing. That right there makes me uncomfortable with having a minor in the band. It's not the maturity level that bothers me so much as the forced segregation.
"hey man, you chill here in the van while we all go have fun"
Yeah, I'm not so cool with that.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. How is it that kids can drive at 16 in the States but can't drink until 21? Many of the 18 year-old lads and lassies in Ireland and the UK can't handle drink, but when they hit 21 they don't immediately become responsible adults. They're still fucktards.

drummers are like the healers of online roleplaying games.

Ha! Brilliant analogy.

this is thanks to you SRL dudes
planted this seed
just won a 90? samick artist SG
new guit for RS?
no fuggin way!....yes way
merry xmas to myself
gonna turn this into growlin chugmonstah
GUFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW
thats what its gonna sound like
what tuning is that?

Nice one, man, congrats!

[moose23]

Picked up a Laney VA100 yesterday with matching cab, sounded great for the five minutes I had it on but it's filthy from sitting in garage for years so gonna need a lot of cleaning up.

Finally got our guitarist into the Simms Watts, took a bit of dialling around but he's never sounded better imo. Gonna give him a spin on the Laney too.

[AxAxSxS]

seriously, the drive before drink thing here is so stupid. I absolutely think it should be the other way around. As it is now it just makes for problems. Also, you can serve in the military and deploy at 18, but you can't have a beer till 21? Stupid. I fully believe that folks should have had their break in period with alcohol before they have ready access to a car. I'm sure most of the US folks here have at least heard of someone who crashed or got a DUI on their 21'st birthday.

Sweet that you guys are using the Simms! Loving mine.

[AngryGoldfish]

Yeah, military acceptance at 18 but no beer until 21 is even worse than the comparison I used. You can be killed and kill others at 18 but you can't have a drink with your mates on a Friday night? I see the benefits of restricting drinking, but allowing everything else is just... weird.

[D.o.S.]

I've met some people like that. I understand what you mean, but I don't co-sign it.

At least he isn't swindling people for merch money like the dude from Nachmysticum.

That's debatable.

Fair.


The Car vs booze thing is really complicated--mostly because large parts of the country are so rural and removed that you essentially need access to a vehicle in a way that you don't in an urban area. But there's really no good reason to wait until you're 21 to start drinking, aside from the fact that it's against the law. Fuck the police, anarchy, crash mom's car into a ditch. Drink in class until you puke on your high school principal.

Right?

[chillerthanmost]

Or PNW. Portland, Seattle and yeah I'll throw Tacoma in there too. People are complaining that there are "too many good bands" Poor us. Still a shortage of drummers but that doesn't seem to stop anybody.

I've been thinking of moving to Tacoma for school and junk. I have a few friends and just happen to know a really good drummer there, haha. But also I've been trying to teach myself drums the last few months so I'll eventually never get to the point of needing a drummer. So far I'm not any good though

[D-Day]

Just popping in to wish them Infinite Flux boys a nice show tonight

[Kacey Y]

seriously, the drive before drink thing here is so stupid. I absolutely think it should be the other way around. As it is now it just makes for problems. Also, you can serve in the military and deploy at 18, but you can't have a beer till 21? Stupid. I fully believe that folks should have had their break in period with alcohol before they have ready access to a car. I'm sure most of the US folks here have at least heard of someone who crashed or got a DUI on their 21'st birthday.

I think I probably knew (sorta, kinda) 4 or 5 people who got in drunk driving accidents before they graduated high school. No DUI, but it probably would have been a sure thing if they had lived. The last car accident my wife got into was a 17 year old running into her at high speed at a stop light, driving his dad's lifted truck, drunk something like twice over the limit or so. The last time before that it was a 16 year old girl driving her mom's giant SUV and talking on her cellphone, ramming into her from behind at high speed while at a stop sign. So yeah, it seems kind of ridiculous that kids can drive at 15/16, but alcohol is illegal until 21. Teenagers in the US drink now, everyone knows that, it's one of those "open secrets" in society. I'd rather let 16 year olds drink in bars and get the novelty of it out of their system (a few terrible hangovers and embarrassing situations will probably tone down the binge drinking a bit) and make it illegal for them to drive until they can function like a semi rational person. This is coming from someone who doesn't drink too. I can't see either of those ideas getting any traction in the US though.

[D.o.S.]

There's a lot of interesting things to be learned about the history of the drinking age in various countries and cultures, actually.

Assuming you want to get your bookworm on.

[Kacey Y]

Or PNW. Portland, Seattle and yeah I'll throw Tacoma in there too. People are complaining that there are "too many good bands" Poor us. Still a shortage of drummers but that doesn't seem to stop anybody.

I've been thinking of moving to Tacoma for school and junk. I have a few friends and just happen to know a really good drummer there, haha. But also I've been trying to teach myself drums the last few months so I'll eventually never get to the point of needing a drummer. So far I'm not any good though

You're good enough to play something really slow, maybe. Time to start a sludge band.

[LOCOPELAND]

Just popping in to wish them Infinite Flux boys a nice show tonight

Hey, thanks Darren! You guys, too!

[AxAxSxS]

I've been thinking of moving to Tacoma for school and junk. I have a few friends and just happen to know a really good drummer there, haha. But also I've been trying to teach myself drums the last few months so I'll eventually never get to the point of needing a drummer. So far I'm not any good though

Definitely hit us up if you do!

Just popping in to wish them Infinite Flux boys a nice show tonight

You too man! Kinda bummed we're going to miss your show due to having our own. Tons of good music going on tonight here.

I think I probably knew (sorta, kinda) 4 or 5 people who got in drunk driving accidents before they graduated high school. No DUI, but it probably would have been a sure thing if they had lived. The last car accident my wife got into was a 17 year old running into her at high speed at a stop light, driving his dad's lifted truck, drunk something like twice over the limit or so. The last time before that it was a 16 year old girl driving her mom's giant SUV and talking on her cellphone, ramming into her from behind at high speed while at a stop sign. So yeah, it seems kind of ridiculous that kids can drive at 15/16, but alcohol is illegal until 21. Teenagers in the US drink now, everyone knows that, it's one of those "open secrets" in society. I'd rather let 16 year olds drink in bars and get the novelty of it out of their system (a few terrible hangovers and embarrassing situations will probably tone down the binge drinking a bit) and make it illegal for them to drive until they can function like a semi rational person. This is coming from someone who doesn't drink too. I can't see either of those ideas getting any traction in the US though.

Totally agree with you. It's better for people to get the novelty of booze behind them before having keys in their pockets. I think 16 to drink and 18 to drive would help a lot. Lots of legal troubles for young people who get caught with booze could also be eliminated. It's a shame when people who are really just starting out get behind on the game due to a criminal history that is the result of partying. I know it wouldn't stop DUI's and deaths related to alcohol, but the more sensible ones at least would not have the deck stacked against them. Same thing with weed, which I think is much less destructive than alcohol.


Ok/soapbox. Off to work on the SG 12. It's actually starting to look guitar like

[humancertainty]

Wah?! I did not know this. I have an album of theirs. It's not my kind of thing personally, but didn't Will used to tour with them as a bassist or something like that?

I did. I was in the band twice. To the best of my knowledge, that all happened after I left, although my role in the band was always more akin to a session musician so if he was doing that at the time I probably would not have known. Blake has been a junkie since right around when we recorded the Addicts album. As is the case with junkies, Blake stole from a lot of people, including friends, family and fans. He also lied to a lot of us.
Supposedly he is clean and trying to make amends although I highly doubt it it true. I haven't had any communication with him in almost a year so I don't really know.

[MeSoFuzzy]

I thought Bobby OD'ed, which is why I said, "was".

So its ok for Eyehategod to have a song called, "white [EDITED]" and I can't say hoodrat? Double standards suck!

I think you're kinda joking, but if not...

Nobody has said you can't say hoodrat.
Nobody here gave EyeHateGod "permission" to name that song!
The disturbing part of your comment was not the term hoodrat, it was what you wished would happen to them. I'd never say that about any non-ethically-aligned* category of people.

*i.e. excluding neo-nazis, kiddy fiddlers, whatever.

Alright John, you have a good point there. I'm just going to end this conversation with- I can not stand anyone that subscribes to the "thug life" mentality. Regardless of race and social class.

My sincerest apologies to everyone that I have offended. I'm sorry!

I don't think anyone was even remotely offended by your rants. I just read it as sad and misguided that you're going to blame others for your frustrations of inadequacy. Your patronizing use of "offended" isn't fooling anyone any more than your attempt to cover yourself by including white trash into your hood rats and thug life. You've got serious issues with blacks but it's probably really coming from somewhere else. There's a rage that comes through in those posts that isn't healthy and somewhere I'll bet you've been taught or found a coping mechanism in blaming others to deal with it. Dare to dig a little deeper than the surface. I've lived in or next to one of the most violent cities in the US and often in the worst parts. I've had plenty of fucked up things happen to me but it's a bit too easy a way out to base a philosophy off of a cliche built on fear, deflection and misinformation. For your sake, you've got to get through to the other side because the one you're currently stuck in is not a good one.

When would like to schedule your next session?

I'm not a racist, end of discussion!

[new05002]

Clip of my current pedal board



The dirt is all coven, most of the time is both pedals on but sometimes i jump to just pharaoh