Chase Bliss Audio "Warped Vinyl" pedal

[backwhenIwascool]

I have decided some of my pedals gotta hit the ol' chopping block so I can snag one of these.
I can't wait.

[Tristan]

Also, from a branding point, you're already in that price class. If the warped vinyl can work the it's not a huge leap to a tricked out trem.

Cool. how much was the gtk3? I'd really like to keep my tremolo under $300 and I think I'll be able to do it. I seriously hate that my stuff is expensive...

The Goatkeeper 3 was $340,- if I'm not mistaken.
Thanks for answering my questions again, sounds good, I think I might actually pull the trigger.
I liked your video's by the way, it's cool to see the actual builder explain things about the pedal.
About the tremolo, I'd opt for a tone control, not many have it but the amount of different sounds possible with a nice tone control on there is quite astounding.

That's a much better idea than overdrive, I think.... especially because you will, of course, be able to modulate that knob... modulating a drive would just sound like tremolo but modulating a tone control would be like a modulating filter... which would be really interesting happening at the same time as the tremolo effect. I'll just have to make sure I use a tone circuit that's interesting, but not too wacky.

Really good idea. I'm going to have to give you a deal when the trem comes out.

So the knobs will be Ramp, Volume, Tone on the top.... then Rate, Depth, Shift on the bottom.

I didn't really think about that but it could be pretty sick in a good way too.
Honestly you should thank Dr. Scientist Ryan for the idea though, his Tremolessence is where I got it from, I never thought it would make such a difference but it does.

[backwhenIwascool]

Ok Joel, I obviously don't expect you to implement this at this point in the game, however, I had an idea for a possible future thing....

So, being a lover of vibrato - really - I love the sound of beat-matched vibrato (one aspect I am totally grateful for on the WV) and recently, via the midfi pitch pirate deluxe, I have fallen in love with having a heavy square wave vibrato kick off right at the beginning of the beat, giving the first note a very distinct "blurp" when timed precisely.

Now, I know that tap tempo is going to satisfy many of my tonal desires, and that tap tempo will make this much easier, but what about attack/envelope control? (It'd be cool for accent notes, not just the up/down beats)
It'd be really cool (at times) for the vibrato to only come in when you strike harder (or softer depending on options/settings, etc...) and then go away once desired, based solely on attack dynamics. So, one could strike a note/chord hard and have that note/chord warp out nicely (if the square wave was set to the left side of course) then return to normal playing and the modulation would disappear quickly as attack dynamics changed (maybe RAMP could vary effect fade out rate in this mode).
So, any thoughts on this? Any way to update the micro-controller for an update in the future? Either way, it's the only thing that I look forward to. EVERYTHING else that I wanted in a vibrato has been satisfied by what I have seen/heard so far.

Thanks Joel.

[JuJo]

That`s a really well thought out pedal design there. I just watched all the videos and I`m definitely impressed. If I had some spending money for pedals right now I`d definitely place an order. It woud be really sweet to have some ability to set or adjust delay time with the pedal. I have a chorus that gives control over delay time and it really adds some extra dimension to the effect. Obviously you`ve jammed just about everything possible into that size enclosure, but ya know, thoughts. Anyway, hope to get a chance to try one of these out some time, and I hope to see some other effects from you in the future

[dubkitty]

If I had some spending money for pedals right now I`d definitely place an order.

[oldangelmidnight]

what about attack/envelope control?

This is is a great idea. The volume sensitive time setting on the panner in the line 6 m5/9 is one of my favorite things.
Dynamic speed control, stereo in/out, and pattern editing on the expanded version, please.

[AngryGoldfish]

I'm for that idea as well. Envelope vibrato? Yes, please.

[chaseblissaudio]

Ok Joel, I obviously don't expect you to implement this at this point in the game, however, I had an idea for a possible future thing....

So, being a lover of vibrato - really - I love the sound of beat-matched vibrato (one aspect I am totally grateful for on the WV) and recently, via the midfi pitch pirate deluxe, I have fallen in love with having a heavy square wave vibrato kick off right at the beginning of the beat, giving the first note a very distinct "blurp" when timed precisely.

Now, I know that tap tempo is going to satisfy many of my tonal desires, and that tap tempo will make this much easier, but what about attack/envelope control? (It'd be cool for accent notes, not just the up/down beats)
It'd be really cool (at times) for the vibrato to only come in when you strike harder (or softer depending on options/settings, etc...) and then go away once desired, based solely on attack dynamics. So, one could strike a note/chord hard and have that note/chord warp out nicely (if the square wave was set to the left side of course) then return to normal playing and the modulation would disappear quickly as attack dynamics changed (maybe RAMP could vary effect fade out rate in this mode).
So, any thoughts on this? Any way to update the micro-controller for an update in the future? Either way, it's the only thing that I look forward to. EVERYTHING else that I wanted in a vibrato has been satisfied by what I have seen/heard so far.

Thanks Joel.

That's a really cool/interesting idea. You could re-create this effect on warped vinyl. The easiest (but also most effortful while playing) would be to connect an expression pedal and have it control depth. That way you can control the amount of depth you want during the performance.

There's another way though... if there's some device out there that outputs a CV voltage based on an input signal... then you could just connect that (the cv signal that is ultimately reflecting your guitar's amplitude) to the expression input and there you go. Anybody know of anything like that?

[chaseblissaudio]

then you could envelope any of the parameters. If there's not anything out there like that I should just design it.

[Bellyheart]

I think the zvex loop gate with this in the loop would really create that effect you're looking for backwheniwascool

[backwhenIwascool]

Ok Joel, I obviously don't expect you to implement this at this point in the game, however, I had an idea for a possible future thing....

So, being a lover of vibrato - really - I love the sound of beat-matched vibrato (one aspect I am totally grateful for on the WV) and recently, via the midfi pitch pirate deluxe, I have fallen in love with having a heavy square wave vibrato kick off right at the beginning of the beat, giving the first note a very distinct "blurp" when timed precisely.

Now, I know that tap tempo is going to satisfy many of my tonal desires, and that tap tempo will make this much easier, but what about attack/envelope control? (It'd be cool for accent notes, not just the up/down beats)
It'd be really cool (at times) for the vibrato to only come in when you strike harder (or softer depending on options/settings, etc...) and then go away once desired, based solely on attack dynamics. So, one could strike a note/chord hard and have that note/chord warp out nicely (if the square wave was set to the left side of course) then return to normal playing and the modulation would disappear quickly as attack dynamics changed (maybe RAMP could vary effect fade out rate in this mode).
So, any thoughts on this? Any way to update the micro-controller for an update in the future? Either way, it's the only thing that I look forward to. EVERYTHING else that I wanted in a vibrato has been satisfied by what I have seen/heard so far.

Thanks Joel.

That's a really cool/interesting idea. You could re-create this effect on warped vinyl. The easiest (but also most effortful while playing) would be to connect an expression pedal and have it control depth. That way you can control the amount of depth you want during the performance.

There's another way though... if there's some device out there that outputs a CV voltage based on an input signal... then you could just connect that (the cv signal that is ultimately reflecting your guitar's amplitude) to the expression input and there you go. Anybody know of anything like that?

Cool. I think that's a pretty good workaround. I'll just hunt down a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEDAL that responds in this specific way. LOL I'm really kidding. I love CV. My only concern is that without envelope control the LFO would be constantly going, and the attack might not "catch" the right part of the waveform (and that's the whole point since it's the initially lift of the square wave wave gives the note it's awesome warp). With envelope control, however, (specifically with the square wave) you wouldn't have to worry about any of that since the waveform would kick off right when the attack threshold was reached.

....that being said.....
I can't wait for the user demos of the WV to start popping up.

[Genghis Kanye]

I think that that pedal ALMOST exists, backwhen. Pigtronix Quantum Time Modulator and Subdecay Siren have envelope vibrato, but I think that the envelope on the Siren only effects the vibrato speed. They both sound demented, though.

[backwhenIwascool]

I think that that pedal ALMOST exists, backwhen. Pigtronix Quantum Time Modulator and Subdecay Siren have envelope vibrato, but I think that the envelope on the Siren only effects the vibrato speed. They both sound demented, though.

Yeah, those are awesome pedals for sure, but not exactly what I'm after.
My idea of envelope control would control the effect intensity while simultaneously restarting the LFO at that instant.

[Glenouille]

There's another way though... if there's some device out there that outputs a CV voltage based on an input signal... then you could just connect that (the cv signal that is ultimately reflecting your guitar's amplitude) to the expression input and there you go. Anybody know of anything like that?

Could probably use the Moog MF107 Freqbox.
The VCO frequency can be modulated by the envelope follower which tracks the dynamics of the input signal. The thing is, you can also take it to other pedals from the Env OUT CV output at the back. (MF101 has one as well i think).
It ouputs 0 to +5V so I'm not 100% sure but I'd guess the Warped Vinyl expression input expects a TRS jack and probably provides current on the ring so a cable with a TS jack in the back of the MF107 and with a TRS plug at the other end would work nicely.
The ring on the TRS side of the cable would not be connected, but it would prevent shorting as the current from the pedal would not go to ground by beeing in contact with the sleeve. Something like that...

Anyway I'll try when I receive my Warped Vinyl.

[chaseblissaudio]

Ok Joel, I obviously don't expect you to implement this at this point in the game, however, I had an idea for a possible future thing....

So, being a lover of vibrato - really - I love the sound of beat-matched vibrato (one aspect I am totally grateful for on the WV) and recently, via the midfi pitch pirate deluxe, I have fallen in love with having a heavy square wave vibrato kick off right at the beginning of the beat, giving the first note a very distinct "blurp" when timed precisely.

Now, I know that tap tempo is going to satisfy many of my tonal desires, and that tap tempo will make this much easier, but what about attack/envelope control? (It'd be cool for accent notes, not just the up/down beats)
It'd be really cool (at times) for the vibrato to only come in when you strike harder (or softer depending on options/settings, etc...) and then go away once desired, based solely on attack dynamics. So, one could strike a note/chord hard and have that note/chord warp out nicely (if the square wave was set to the left side of course) then return to normal playing and the modulation would disappear quickly as attack dynamics changed (maybe RAMP could vary effect fade out rate in this mode).
So, any thoughts on this? Any way to update the micro-controller for an update in the future? Either way, it's the only thing that I look forward to. EVERYTHING else that I wanted in a vibrato has been satisfied by what I have seen/heard so far.

Thanks Joel.

That's a really cool/interesting idea. You could re-create this effect on warped vinyl. The easiest (but also most effortful while playing) would be to connect an expression pedal and have it control depth. That way you can control the amount of depth you want during the performance.

There's another way though... if there's some device out there that outputs a CV voltage based on an input signal... then you could just connect that (the cv signal that is ultimately reflecting your guitar's amplitude) to the expression input and there you go. Anybody know of anything like that?

Cool. I think that's a pretty good workaround. I'll just hunt down a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEDAL that responds in this specific way. LOL I'm really kidding. I love CV. My only concern is that without envelope control the LFO would be constantly going, and the attack might not "catch" the right part of the waveform (and that's the whole point since it's the initially lift of the square wave wave gives the note it's awesome warp). With envelope control, however, (specifically with the square wave) you wouldn't have to worry about any of that since the waveform would kick off right when the attack threshold was reached.

....that being said.....
I can't wait for the user demos of the WV to start popping up.

awww, ok, I got it. I didn't realize it was important that the beginning of the wave would get triggered on the attack, but now I see why that would be useful.