The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[new05002]

Go 8. Also realize that wattage usage is inverse of the ohms, so the amp will work harder with lower Ohms rated cabs.... I think.

Not true for tube amps

[AxAxSxS]

ok, so that only applies to solid state bass type amps? I still say 8 as it tends to be a middle of the road thing.

[new05002]

anything solid state, output power will increase as the speaker impedance decreases. However as you drop the impedance, the power dissipation on the power amp increases so you are increasing the stress. Usually a solid state amp is rated down to a minimum impedance you could run which I would believe is 2 ohm minimum for any decent amp but maybe 4 ohm for less amps

[pelliott]

Why fuck Prymaxe? I have had nothing but good encounters when purchasing from them.

Though I personally had a good experience with them in the past, it sounds like they have become majorly unprofessional, venomous, vengeful, and childish in recent months, as the thread posted earlier shows. I'd prefer not to deal with them in the future.

[Ancient Astronaught]

Just get a meatsmoke already. we all know that's where you are going to end up. Verellens having a sale right now too. Or a third EVEN MORE MASSIVE Dunwich?

Thats a no go, its BAX or GTFO for me, Nick has fully converted me. I've thought about a third Dunwich but I can't be that much of a fanboy....

besides....

I'M ENTITLED TO IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION!!!

[new05002]

james/bax FTW

[Ancient Astronaught]

james/bax FTW

egg zachary! throw a mid shift in there and seriously the most flexible and musical EQ EVAH!

[new05002]

I will say that an additional active mid control is the ultimate compliment. I think the EQ that went into Ron's tube pre Ampeg channel was total win

[AxAxSxS]

Thats a no go, its BAX or GTFO for me, Nick has fully converted me. I've thought about a third Dunwich but I can't be that much of a fanboy....

:

Sure ya can! If I had the money to throw around I totally would!.

[Kacey Y]

james/bax FTW

You totally convinced me of its superior tonal flexibility, with the bass preamp and the WF.

[Ancient Astronaught]

I will say that an additional active mid control is the ultimate compliment. I think the EQ that went into Ron's tube pre Ampeg channel was total win

Don't tempt me

Thats a no go, its BAX or GTFO for me, Nick has fully converted me. I've thought about a third Dunwich but I can't be that much of a fanboy....

Sure ya can! If I had the money to throw around I totally would!.

hahaha tis true, unfortunately I'd still be short quite a few hundred dollars for a Dunwich build of what I want. If I get a third Dunwich I'll either have a 300w slave for the Naki built called The Adamos or a 200w slave for the Wizard either called The Apprentice or The Familiar. Either one is unfortunately just a bit out of my price range at the moment.

[AxAxSxS]

Oh god.....
I would love to see that happen.

[Ancient Astronaught]

Oh god.....
I would love to see that happen.

Which one?

[samzadgan]

i would love hear that happen…i like the idea of both…but 300w…thats just more wattage for the doomage...

[samzadgan]

the reason i ask about the blackstar is because a guy has one for sale and I'm considering it...the power scaling is quite good...just not sure if it can do the dooms...

wait...scrap that...the whole reason i sold my amp is to get something smaller...damn this GAS!

The Blackstar amps I've tried are not Doom-worthy on their own. I imagine Matt uses plenty of pedal colouration on either a clean setting or a slightly gritty setting, at which any loud amp on the planet could be a Doom amp. The 200 watt Series One has that big low-end and piano-like sustain of a Diezel Herbert or a Soldano Avenger, but that's it.

so my amp search continues…i've been offered two things:

a 50w Marshall plexi clone (ceriatone) with a 2x12 loaded with celestion hot100's for £600
a 50w jet city head with a Matamp 1x12 cab loaded with celestion century 80 for £380
a Orange TH30 head with Orange 1x12 loaded with V30 £650

i think the jet city i would spend another £100 getting a depth mod and maybe the clean mod done on it.

thoughts?

Don't buy an amp and modify it unless you're willing to lose money on it if and when you decide you want to move on and try something else. You will lose almost all your money. Jet City amps haven't held their value very well, and my modified 20H is well worth £500 when it comes to sound and quality per-sterling, but no one wants to pay that for a modified Jet City.

If I could offer a new viewpoint, get something that has a solid resale value. Fender are usually a safe bet. Try and find a Fender Bassman 50 head or something like that. I say this because it looks like you're unsure what you want yourself and are just testing the waters in different places in the ocean to see where it's warmest for your precious baby makers.

quick Cab question...

i'm getting a custom one with eminence swamp thang speaker...its a 1x12.

as far as impedance goes...i have a choice of 8ohm or 16ohm...whats the best to go for?

i thought if its 8, then i can always get another cab at 8 as well in the future...whereas a 16 would limit me right?

Go 8ohms. It's the easiest to match to any amp. Jeff at Matamp would say 16ohms because it sounds better, but the difference, if there is any at all, is so minor that you would not notice it. It's better, in my opinion, to have the benefit of a more applicable speaker impedance. There are few amps that don't output at 8 ohms.

Dan…thanks for all the advice.

I ended up getting the Jet City…it was a good second hand price, and yeah, i won't do any mods on it, unless i like the base tone. I don't see those mods really changing the voice, only enhancing certain aspects. So the plan is, play around with it, if its what i want then great, otherwise i can flip it and will not lose much (if any) money on it.