Debate: Electric guitars and tone woods?
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Re: Debate: Electric guitars and tone woods?
Bridge pickups are often wound hotter. I don't really know that much about it though.
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skullservant wrote:Are neck pickups made that much differently from bridge pickups to sound so drastically different?
Yep, the harmonic content and the balance between the bass and the treble are substantially different at the bridge and neck, and the volume output is lower at the bridge. Although, I'd like to get a neck pickup with adjustable pole pieces and try and get it liken a bridge pickup. Should be possible. It'd be pretty low output cos as Achtane says bridge pickups are often wound hotter cos the amplitude of the vibrating string is smaller at the bridge = less difference in the magnetic field over the pole pieces = less output.
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It totally makes sense, I was just super surprised at the almost low pass filter that seemed to be a part of the neck pickup. Sounds great in the neck position, but shit in the bridge haha
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Man, makes me wish I wasn't rocking single pickup guitars - would be cool to hear it as well. Then again, not sure that it's worth the trouble given that you've already tested and the results were crap haha.
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Test all the things! And report back with results!
Aka common sense probably came from somewhere but let's make objective decisions of our own rather than lock-stepping with all the guitarists that big name guitar companies cater to (coddle?)
Aka common sense probably came from somewhere but let's make objective decisions of our own rather than lock-stepping with all the guitarists that big name guitar companies cater to (coddle?)
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I found that bridge Dano lipstick pickups sound AWESOME in the neck.
And that aluminum pick I'm loving more and more. Tears the shit out of my guitar though
And that aluminum pick I'm loving more and more. Tears the shit out of my guitar though
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Put a new bridge on my green guitar... guitar now sounds thicker or bassier... the reason though was the guitar has a bigsby and the tune-o-matic that it came with was rocking around and binding so I got a roller bridge... witch I had to mod to fit on the guitars posts... anyway... so yeah...
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I have this wilkenson bridge with roller saddles it seemed nice initially, all brass and a good weight to it, but the rollers have such a tiny groove that the thicker strings I tend to use have trouble staying seated. Got any recommendations for a roller bridge tunomatic style post spacing for heavey gauge strings
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lapsteel wrote:I have this wilkenson bridge with roller saddles it seemed nice initially, all brass and a good weight to it, but the rollers have such a tiny groove that the thicker strings I tend to use have trouble staying seated. Got any recommendations for a roller bridge tunomatic style post spacing for heavey gauge strings
Schaller works pretty well actually... well up to a 52 anyway..
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goroth wrote:skullservant wrote:Are neck pickups made that much differently from bridge pickups to sound so drastically different?
Yep, the harmonic content and the balance between the bass and the treble are substantially different at the bridge and neck, and the volume output is lower at the bridge. Although, I'd like to get a neck pickup with adjustable pole pieces and try and get it liken a bridge pickup. Should be possible. It'd be pretty low output cos as Achtane says bridge pickups are often wound hotter cos the amplitude of the vibrating string is smaller at the bridge = less difference in the magnetic field over the pole pieces = less output.
nowadays it's not unusual for a neck bucker to be wound to 9K-12K, while the neck PU is more like 7.5K. personally, i really dislike this, because i have to back the neck pickup down so low that it's sometimes below the level of the ring to get it to balance with the bridge PU.
when i still had my Epiphone Les Paul Custom, i swapped the bridge PU for a neck PU from another ELPC set on eBay...it made for a much sweeter, less ice-picky tone especially after i un-potted it. but then, i really don't like pickups that are much above 8.5K. i prefer to get my density from the amp and pedals.
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Yeah man, I used to be all about the output, but am now more into the pedals/amp thing. 
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dubkitty wrote:when i still had my Epiphone Les Paul Custom, i swapped the bridge PU for a neck PU from another ELPC set on eBay...it made for a much sweeter, less ice-picky tone especially after i un-potted it.
How the hell do you un-pot a pickup

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Boxbie wrote:dubkitty wrote:when i still had my Epiphone Les Paul Custom, i swapped the bridge PU for a neck PU from another ELPC set on eBay...it made for a much sweeter, less ice-picky tone especially after i un-potted it.
How the hell do you un-pot a pickup
If it was in wax, a heat gun or some other heat source?
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I think this dude uses guitars to compensate for his lack of friends.... He seems kind of like Holden Caulfield as a guitarist.....motherfuckers......but yeah I hear him and it makes sense.
More importantly I want to try out some lace sensors...
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