Prometheus! I didn't think you had it in you...

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Prometheus! I didn't think you had it in you...

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Saw it yesterday...visually, just stunning. With the exception of some really cheesy CGI xenomorphs (In relation to the plot I understand why they were portrayed this way, but it made them less terrifying), I loved the set pieces and general vibe. I'm going back to see it in Imax 3D.
Thematically it was also pretty deep with all the patriarchal/matriarchal/creator/what-is-our-purpose themes interplaying.

The scenes with David are the best (Fassbender gives a great turn in the role)
Guy Pierce's inclusion was unneccessary and somewhat distracting (I kept thinking Benjamin Button), but he gave a great performance in the Weyland "TED 2023" talk viral trailer
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(the speech is referenced in an early scene, but part of me feels it should have been included at some point in the film...)
There is also a rumor that he was included to set up a possible pre-prequel film revolving around the younger Weyland.

The execution of the dialogue (and the dialogue itself) was at certain points very weak.
I cringed during Charlize Theron's "reveal" (surprising since she was so on top of her game in Snow White)
Also, I get that Shaw wasn't supposed to be the new Ripley but I thought her character bordered on sexist, almost a complete anti-feminist counter weight to Ripley.
I almost found Shaw offensively shallow (the inclusion of a weak religious subtext had potential but ended up being a bit forced). Perhaps they plan on developing her further in a sequel.

...which brings me to the worst part...this was obviously planned as a new trilogy, and that it all connects to an overarching story that will slowly be explained over the next 4-5 years.
In striving for that continuity, the films make small sacrifices that make them weaker as standalone films, something which say Alien or Aliens doesn't really suffer from.

I did enjoy it, but not quite a future classic.
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Thanks for the review, I am definately going to see it within the next week or so.
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fuck yeah. i'm a sucker for all things Alien. i even liked the Cloning Blues vs Winnow The Shoplifting MACHINE one. but it WAS Whedon.

..... not the prison one with black dood from Rock. that was awful.

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Gunner Recall wrote:Saw it yesterday...visually, just stunning.

Why was this your first point? As a discerning and critical film-goer who doesn't just go see any remake/prequel/hardly-changed-origin story that was a suuuuuuuuuper huge turn-off.

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massive alien fan, i love all 4 especially the extended alien 3 but prometheus was awful.
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Gunner Recall wrote:...which brings me to the worst part...
Nothing's going to top just how bad the science is by the sounds of things. I just can't watch stuff like this where the writers obviously have never cracked a biology book in their lives. Really, it would have taken them 10 minutes to come up with something a bit more convincing than dropping naked alien DNA into a river for fucks sake.
Plus the whole von Daniken connection has me facepalming.
I'll be taking a pass on this one, I don't care how nice it looks. Sci-fi has to be at least vaguely scientifically plausible, otherwise it's just fi, and that's no fun.
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I liked it but didn't love it. Was expecting more and some character motives were hard to follow.
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I'm indifferent 'bout this.... kinda don't give a shit either way.

I'll see it, but yeah.... if it's got no substance and just razzle-dazzle I ain't gonna be diggin it.
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It's a lot like Lost.

Don't go in expecting answers, because you won't get any...and if you do, they'll be incredibly underwhelming.
It works much better as a spiritual predecessor than a prequel.
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Gunner Recall wrote:It's a lot like Lost.

Another reason NOT to see this movie.

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I thought the film was alright... but it lost its focus about midway through.


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Once Charlie was torched by Charlize, the film took about twenty minutes to get back on track. I guess I would have considered him a "main character" that actually had a story to follow, and then he just disappeared. I understand the "need" for a solo female character, but they hadn't established her well enough before her counterpart died.

The main problem with the film was the unnecessary amount of characters thrown in. You could cut it down to Charlie and Elizabeth (the main couple), the big black captain, Charlize, David, and maybe a few red shirts... but there were so many extraneous characters that I did not care about AT ALL. You can't have that many characters in a movie that have absolutely no story... that just equals no emotional connection from the audience. Cut the cast in half and you've got something TIGHT.

As far as "answers"... Answers do not a good film make. There was enough to make your mind work for the answers, even if they were not clear. That's such a modern problem people have with art... "Explain this to me or it is invalid". Blech. Use your imagination. There is MORE than enough there to form some kind of idea about how the mythology works if you just take some time or have a chat with like-minded friends.

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I didn't even know this was related to alien at all until last night. I really wish I could see it, NOT knowing, and then make my own connections. Still, after hearing spoilers here, and actually watching the show spoilers, I need to go see it.

Will be watching Alien today, since it's been a while.
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Jero wrote:Will be watching Alien today, since it's been a while.



Make sure it's totally dark wherever you're watching it.


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