Any ILF "Planeswalkers"? aka the Magic: The Gathering thread

[Psyre]

I have considered Pauper actually, Goblins is a hell of a deck, last actual tournament I played in that's what I used.

Dude, have you seen the Grapeshot/combo deck that goes off on turn 2 sometimes? 20+ points of damage and/or a shitload of goblin tokens. Nosty

Looked it up, building it now, just to have around, I have essentially all the cards for it haha

[Big Mon]

I have considered Pauper actually, Goblins is a hell of a deck, last actual tournament I played in that's what I used.

Dude, have you seen the Grapeshot/combo deck that goes off on turn 2 sometimes? 20+ points of damage and/or a shitload of goblin tokens. Nosty

Looked it up, building it now, just to have around, I have essentially all the cards for it haha

Word. My Pauper deck is the mono blue affinity one. Motherfucker's quick and recursive, yo. I'm thinking next PDC deck I'll build is Faeries. Would also like to try out the 5 color Disciple of the Vault Affinity deck Dude, we should figure a way to play online! I'm not on any online league, just playing vs. my kids right now. IDK,maybe if we're both honest, via online chat? I'ma flood your ass with cheap artifacts!

[Psyre]

hahah, I think there are some apps for playing online, like apprentice and another that is text based

[Big Mon]

Word. As soon as I'm done being brain-raped by this semester, I'll look into it

[UisceBeatha414]

Currently have two decks, blue/white, and blue/green...haven't worked out the strategy yet..just kinda threw them together.

Incidentally, are there any strategies for deck-building that some of the more experienced players could explain?

[Big Mon]

Currently have two decks, blue/white, and blue/green...haven't worked out the strategy yet..just kinda threw them together.

Incidentally, are there any strategies for deck-building that some of the more experienced players could explain?

Well, here are a few things I take into account when I build:
1. How do you want the deck to function? What will be your "win condition",or will you have a few different ones. If you go the "my deck can win X way, or Y way", then make sure that you're not trying to make it do TOO much. That just makes it unfocused
2. Select cards to compliment your win condition/s,taking into account colored mana costs/mana costs in general. Synergy is key here.
3. You've got your win cons and your cards to compliment it, now you need to look again at mana costs. Here's where you determine your mana base. For example, your blue/green deck-does it have more spells/creatures that are blue mana intensive, or green mana intensive? Is it a fast deck that you could build on a mana curve(i.e. run several turns on the least possible amount of mana), or do you need mana acceleration to get out lots of land/mana sources for a high-cost,high-powered effect? (case in point: A fast all red Goblin deck can win without having lots of mana sources in play, whereas an all blue control deck takes control,usually in the mid-late game by casting higher cost flying creatures or spells and effects).
4. Play-test against your other decks to see where you are in terms of effectiveness. Did the deck perform how you want it to? What cards slowed you down, which ones made a difference in the game? All these can be evaluated through play-testing. To ply-test, just have a friend play against you using one of your decks. If you don't have any friends, because everybody hates you, then you can just do it yourself! When doing this, you have to be completely unbiased, and not try to beat yourself with your"favorite" deck.
5. Know thine enemies-what decks are you liable to be playing against in Friday Night Magic events,sanctioned tournaments,or just fuckin' around at your kitchen table over beers and pot. Once you know your enemies, build a sideboard of 15 cards to fine tune your deck per each matchup That blue/white deck is likely to have issues against red direct damage, offensive black decks, creature-heavy decks. So make your sideboard accordingly.
Hope that helps

[Psyre]

Currently have two decks, blue/white, and blue/green...haven't worked out the strategy yet..just kinda threw them together.

Incidentally, are there any strategies for deck-building that some of the more experienced players could explain?

Bloo beat me to it, here are some tips to help understand color roles a bit as well.

The best advise I can give is look up current popular deck lists, see what kind of decks people play, there is certainly a reason, and look for how the cards synergize. TYPICALLY each color has a role:
Green= Ramp Aggro(agrressive) it takes a little longer to get the big guys out but when they are out Good Game, it's referred to as ramp because the main goal is to always ramp up as much mana as you can quick to get the big fellas out.
Red=Instant Aggro. It focuses on instants/sorceries that get out quick and do small amounts of damage, perfect example is Lightning Bolt, another example is the goblins deck that was mentioned earlier, Goblins are all very cheap casting cost and they benefit eachother i.e. Goblin lackey brings out other goblins main goal is to get out a Goblin piledriver then it's GG
Blue=control, it's instant based and it's main focus is to thwart the other players strategy perfect example is Counter Spell and Brainstorm
Black=control but moreso thwarting the person's strategy before it leaves their hand, examples: Hymn to Tourach and Duress
White= Protection/control, where as Blue stops the strategy as it is coming into play and black stops it before play, white tends to have cards that remove it after it has come into play; i.e. Swords to Plowshares and Oblivion Ring

Granted all colors have abilities that delve into the other colors territories, those were sort of how the colors were designed and usually is how the colors are used when acting as a secondary color in a deck.

[UisceBeatha414]

thanks for the info Bloo and Psyre..though I realized after the fact that I goofed. one deck is blue/white and the other is green/white, not green/blue....my bad.

I'm thinking of giving these away, actually...what I really want is red/black, but haven't been able to find much so far...

[Psyre]

thanks for the info Bloo and Psyre..though I realized after the fact that I goofed. one deck is blue/white and the other is green/white, not green/blue....my bad.

I'm thinking of giving these away, actually...what I really want is red/black, but haven't been able to find much so far...

If your just playing casually I would check on red/black dragon reanimator, it was the first deck I built and it is cheap as well as quick. I will link some of the staple cards.

http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardsearch.php?singlesearch=Buried%20Alive
http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardsearch.php?singlesearch=exhume
http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=33717
http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=247401
http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=43711

To simplify, you use Buried Alive, search your deck put anger, bladewing the risen, and dragon tyrant into your graveyard, use exhume bring back Bladewing, now that you have brought in bladewing it triggers it's effect which allows you to bring in Dragon Tyrant. Anger gives both of these creatures Haste, which allows them to attack the same turn they come into play, bladewing attacks for 4 and Dragon Tyrant attacks for 12 because it has double strike. 16 damage rather quickly, add in lightning bolts or shocks which hopefully you can get off turns 1-3 before you are able to play your first burried alive.


I used this deck back when it was legal in the extended format back in 2006ish. Today it would be considered Casual but can be had for around $50-75 depending on how good you make it.

[Big Mon]

Don't write off blue/white OR green/white-a viable, competitive, and totally inexpensive deck can be made just by tweaking what you have. Staple green/white deck cards like Armadillo Cloak and Shield of the Oversoul can turn 3 chump creatures into a serious threat.

[UisceBeatha414]

Don't write off blue/white OR green/white-a viable, competitive, and totally inexpensive deck can be made just by tweaking what you have. Staple green/white deck cards like Armadillo Cloak and Shield of the Oversoul can turn 3 chump creatures into a serious threat.

Good to know. a little background..my blue/white is a flying/multikicker sorta contraption (WorldWake). My Green/White is a 'gigantomancy' deck (eldrazi set) with alot of green creature stuff that can be 'super-sized'

[foomanfat]

Truth, my buddy always wrecked me with a green/white deck.

[Grrface]

Word. As soon as I'm done being brain-raped by this semester, I'll look into it

If you had webcams, you could probably set up a skype call pretty easy to do that.

[UisceBeatha414]

Or just use MtG Online? It's on the official MtG website.. never tried it myself.
It's Flash, I think.

[Big Mon]

Or just use MtG Online? It's on the official MtG website.. never tried it myself.
It's Flash, I think.

yeah, but I have paper cards, and don't wanna buy virtual copies of the same shit.