Corgan Talkin Smack, Again...

[hazelwould]

The thing is though... They were big during the hayday of the music industry. If they were a new band now and tried releasing something, influence aside they'd fall somewhere in the middle. Case in point Zwan. If he was so cutting edge why does he keep coming back to the same old shit? Obviously the numbers.

There is such a broad range of music and knowledge of music from listeners. No longer do you just have "alternative" rock listeners. People have expanded their minds into more than big muffs and filtered vocals.

[hazelwould]

Man, I drove 460 miles today to play two shows within three hours in Austin (and also chill with a bro) and I come back to this thread. Since when has Billy Corgan been musically relevant? Also, since when is it about numbers?

Or, since when do I give a shit?

Also, despite having a pretty okay time today, I was still kind of infuriated by being in the downtown area during south by. I swear to god, fucking infuriating place.

Yea traffic just isn't worth it IMO. It's good for Dallas though, cause we get a lot of good band traffic away from the madness.

[SPACERITUAL]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0[/youtube]

[theavondon]

Also, despite having a pretty okay time today, I was still kind of infuriated by being in the downtown area during south by. I swear to god, fucking infuriating place.

Hahaha and that's why I usually don't go

SO MANY AGED HIP KIDS WITH BADGES AND GREY HAIR CROSSING THE STREET IN FRONT OF MY CAR EVEN THOUGH MY LIGHT IS GREEN

[sonidero]

Also, despite having a pretty okay time today, I was still kind of infuriated by being in the downtown area during south by. I swear to god, fucking infuriating place.

Hahaha and that's why I usually don't go

SO MANY AGED HIP KIDS WITH BADGES AND GREY HAIR CROSSING THE STREET IN FRONT OF MY CAR EVEN THOUGH MY LIGHT IS GREEN

HAHAHA that's always 6th...

[CBA]

Honestly, here:

I don't really even understand what Corgan is saying in that quote. Perhaps I need to read the full article (if there is one) or like not read it out of context, but I for reals do not understand what he's saying.

I'm going to have to go with Tom Dalton on this one and agree that all I hear (read) is a big hot juicy fucking fart.


C

[D.o.S.]

not to toot my own horn, but i feel like i'm doing things and making sounds on guitar that haven't really been done before.

I'm pretty sure people have been making shit music for a long time, brah.

[theavondon]

not to toot my own horn, but i feel like i'm doing things and making sounds on guitar that haven't really been done before.

I'm pretty sure people have been making shit music for a long time, brah.

BOO-URNS

[magiclawnchair]

Honestly, here:

I don't really even understand what Corgan is saying in that quote. Perhaps I need to read the full article (if there is one) or like not read it out of context, but I for reals do not understand what he's saying.

I'm going to have to go with Tom Dalton on this one and agree that all I hear (read) is a big hot juicy fucking fart.


C

A big hot juicy fucking fart? Like a queef?

[sonidero]

HE'S BACK!!! Gish was awesome, but now he acts like he invented music, again...

"On June 19, The Smashing Pumpkins, the band in which singer-songwriter Billy Corgan is the sole original member, will release Oceania, the band’s first studio album in more than five years. Since bass guitarist D’arcy Wretzky left the Pumpkins in 1999, members have come (Melissa Auf der Maur) and gone (everyone else), and Corgan has tried his luck with new bands (Zwan) and solo efforts (2005′s The Future Embrace), all to mixed reactions. Now with a completely new lineup, Corgan says Oceania is the best Smashing Pumpkins’ album he’s recorded since the early ’90s. But you don’t talk to one of the most outspoken artists in the industry without getting his opinion (and more than a few f-bombs) on more than just his new album. Here are a few highlights — check back tomorrow for our full profile of Corgan and the new band.

On other ’90s artists

“If an artist from my generation can step forward and make a really strong record, rather than another f–king reunion tour, then it starts to draw a really big line between those artists who are relevant and those who are strictly in the past, and people need to make the distinction. One is pleasure and one is creativity. If you want pleasure, porn is always readily available.”

On the spirit of Smashing Pumpkins

“A lot of bands, just like Rush, take inspiration from the band’s spirit more than its members and the Smashing Pumpkins is one of those bands. People take inspiration from the spirit, the defiance, the willingness to say ‘I’m not going to compromise with your value system, Mr. Indie Guy or Mr. Stuck up Mainstream Guy, f–k all of you.’ There are those bands that represent more than just whether or not the songs are good.’

On his reputation for being controlling

“It’s always been collaborative, it’s just who does what, when and where. With the original Smashing Pumpkins everyone was involved with every phase of it, but when you got down to the nuts and bolts, like, ‘Can you play this lightning fast guitar part, James [Iha]?’ Well, in a lot of cases he couldn’t. You’re standing there with one of the best producers in the world and he’s going, ‘What are we going to do?’ It wasn’t like me and three people with blindfolds on.”

On the power of online comments

“I think that the audience needs to evolve with the artist. When you have an audience not really willing to understand the difference between an opinion and support then you just consigned your favourite artist to the dustbin. Don’t fool yourself, when there is a message board for Coachella and fans are writing who they want to see, there is someone on the other end reading that. Those are real things. Requesting, writing, demanding, tweeting. Those do play factors. If your favourite band in the world which you talk about on your website every f–king day releases a new song and within five minute you’re saying it’s the worst piece of s–t you’ve ever heard, what do you expect to happen to your band?”

On why they will be playing Oceania live in its entirety

“We’ve hired an interesting person in Sean Evans [the mastermind behind Roger Waters' The Wall tour] to do the visuals and we want to play the album in sequence, as a little bit of a f–k you to all the people out there playing their old albums. We just want to play it as a total statement so fans will be able to experience the album live.”

On coming to terms with change

“Change is scary. I don’t like it, either. You think I wanted to go through everything I have in the last 20 years? I was once in a somewhat solid alternative band that was successful, and ever since then I’ve had to deal with the wreckage of that plane that exploded mid-air. There are things I would change and things I regret, but here we are. We’re still going. Do you want to dwell on something that’s already been overly dwelled on or do you want to get in on the party that’s going on now?”

On fans’ reactions to the online-only Teargarden by Kaleidyscope

“One of the releases was called A Stitch in Time, which in my estimation is a pretty good song that could have very much fit on many Smashing Pumpkins’ albums. I was reading about it as if it was the worst piece of s–t they’d ever heard, and I’m like, ‘My god, it’s just an acoustic song. How bad can it be?’ “

On proudly showing his influences

“When I was younger I was a little more hell bent on hiding my influences, whereas now I’m OK with the fact that I was listening to a lot of Randy Rhoads or ’80s shoegaze music. I’m totally cool with that. I really love my idols and my heroes and it’s a way to pay tribute to them."

[sonidero]

The audience needs to evolve with the artist...

[Gearmond]

his bit about other 90's artist is spot on, so credit where credit is due.

90's bands will become the next generation of dinosaur rock, and for what its worth he's at least avoided being a band like Blue Oyster Cult playing midwest rib-offs

[dubkitty]

FOR NOW. he's still young enough to have decades of Indian casinos in his future.

[plhogan]

Wait why are people talking about Billy Corgan like he's relevant?

Guys lots of old people think stupid shit. Go ask your grandpa what he thinks about gay people or Dubkitty what he thinks about black people. Doesn't mean we have to get all riled up about it.

[plhogan]

That was a joke I love you dub