snipelfritz wrote:2. unownunown you are being that sort of person I really despise right now. That person who mistakes subversive (semi)intelligent debate for mean-spirited argument and decides to diffuse the situation by trying to dumb down the conversation. I like to contradict people and then follow the resulting criticisms. It is a way to better myself and to explore the perspectives of other.
lololol my posting tao lin shit (did you define that as dumbing down the conversation, or was it the otters?) was in response to the general spirit of the thread which was pretty stupid, in my (semi)intelligent and subversive opinion. not that there's anything wrong with complaining about the current state of american education, outsourcing or talking about space travel or anything, but the way it accumulated indicated it wasn't going anywhere that would give justice to either of those (extremely complex) topics. i didn't mistake it for 'mean spirited argument,' i just felt the urge to throw the conversation off track yo..
Hoe exactly was it "pretty stupid"? The other two forums i frequent each had a combined total of what....30 threads dedicated to the shuttle? Along with every fucking person that felt the need to open their hillbilly mouth to me the other day and ramble on in that disgustingly forced accent about how fucking great that waste of money is. This attitude (which ill be honest i motice exponentially more in women, especially the teenage ones) that anything you dont agree with 100% is "stupid" or "ignorant" is shallow lazy, and generally bad politics in an argumentative sense. If youre going to disagree with something or someone, its usually good policy to state why, and to give some examples of your point of view, you know, so maybe people will take your opinion seriously. Saying things like "thats stupid because i dont like it" makes you sound like a mongoloid fairy gibbering in my ear. But youre right, my thread is fucking stupid because you dont like it. From now on before posting ill just get your opinion.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH WHY SO SERIOUS. Im sorry guys ive never actually lashed out at anybody on this forum in any serious manner whatsoever and Ill try never to do it again.I really dont mean to hurt anyones feelings. YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK
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D.o.S. wrote:Yeah I have a Godsmack shirt
jwar wrote:Not to be a dick or anything but My Bloody Valentine sucks ass.
My whole life is a shitpost. One. Big. Shit. Post.
i was referring to the conversation leading up to snip's essay, not just the opening post. but it shouldn't bother you (even sarcasticallyyyy) if i was referring to the opening post anyway. you can post shit, and people can have opinions on it. such is the nature of like, everything
edit because you added another point i should address: i thought snip's original dismissive attitude towards the space shuttle actually taking off not being news was stupid, even when proven incorrect by a simple google search. i think this is stupid because it makes no sense to go into an argument based on an assumption when a google search can stop you from looking like you don't know what's going on.
i thought "I guess instead of astronauts everybody wants to grow up to be a reality stars or make a sex tape or blog." was rather out of touch and nostalgic.
i think your post that i'm responding to now ignored the fact that i stated why i didn't like the thread's direction like one sentence after i said it was fucking stupid. you know, when i said "not that there's anything wrong with complaining about the current state of american education, outsourcing or talking about space travel or anything, but the way it accumulated indicated it wasn't going anywhere that would give justice to either of those (extremely complex) topics"
why do i think that? well, historically snips arguments tend to be that way.
mathias wrote:I heard that Tom Dalton read a book on how to grow online communities around your business. But he thought it was too much work so he just created a forum full of alts. You and I are the only real people.
unownunown wrote: i think your post that i'm responding to now ignored the fact that i stated why i didn't like the thread's direction like one sentence after i said it was fucking stupid. you know, when i said "not that there's anything wrong with complaining about the current state of american education, outsourcing or talking about space travel or anything, but the way it accumulated indicated it wasn't going anywhere that would give justice to either of those (extremely complex) topics"
No, you followed an irrational, opinionated statement with an irrational, opinionated statement. I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG.
D.o.S. wrote:Yeah I have a Godsmack shirt
jwar wrote:Not to be a dick or anything but My Bloody Valentine sucks ass.
My whole life is a shitpost. One. Big. Shit. Post.
unownunown wrote: i think your post that i'm responding to now ignored the fact that i stated why i didn't like the thread's direction like one sentence after i said it was fucking stupid. you know, when i said "not that there's anything wrong with complaining about the current state of american education, outsourcing or talking about space travel or anything, but the way it accumulated indicated it wasn't going anywhere that would give justice to either of those (extremely complex) topics"
No, you followed an irrational, opinionated statement with an irrational, opinionated statement. I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG.
irrational and opinionated like your opinion of my opinion, amirite?
(but you're going to say no)
mathias wrote:I heard that Tom Dalton read a book on how to grow online communities around your business. But he thought it was too much work so he just created a forum full of alts. You and I are the only real people.
I sowwy guys. I've been feeling a little...unstable lately and I tend to get really irritable when that happens and this is just one way that's really easy to mouth off like an asshat.
tuffteef wrote:
TroySanders wrote:im gonna sit on the dick shuttle
My name is Richard Shuttle, but my friends call me Dick. Dick Shuttle. I own a "Service" In L.A. Look us up sometime and we'll make sure to have something "up" for you.
BOOM-SHAKALAKALAKA-BOOM-SHAKALAKUNGA
Behndy wrote:i don't like people with "talent" and "skills" that don't feel the need to cover their inadequacies under good time happy sounds.
Acting like NASA isn't important is pretty short-sited.
NASA and its space program are partly responsible for things like cell phones, GPS, satellite communication, and a bunch of stuff you wouldn't even think of. Fun fact: NASA commissioned the first integrated circuit, which was built by Texas Instruments. Without that, we wouldn't have much of anything we have today.
Fucking sucks that the first thing anyone thinks when they see something is "How can this benefit me?" That's the attitude that prevents progress. When people with that attitude get rich... that's how you get oil company executives.
i've kind of been not paying attention, not because it doesn't matter to me but because i find it rather sad. given that i'm OLD i watched the moon landings and stuff and still carry at least the memory of that excitement, and watched the initial shuttle launches back at the dawn of the 80s with the anticipation that it'd be the next phase. it wound up being the cosmic short bus, as the country's and world's interest in manned space exploration ceased once the Moon-as-Cold-War-space-base option was removed. it's kind of heartbreaking, really...as if we'd opened a room full of unimaginable beauty, peered in for a moment, and then said "aaaaaah, we can just send in a camera." as if a camera can even capture the play of light and shadow on a Rembrandt, let alone a galaxy cluster. people say "oh, but it's expensive, and we need this, that, and the other." true...but we need dreams, too.
In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni
FIFTY YEARS OF SCARING THE CHILDREN 1970-2020--and i'm not done yet
plhogan wrote:Legitimately Depressing you kids arent excited by space anymore. I guess instead of astronauts everybody wants to grow up to be a reality stars or make a sex tape or blog.
Takes balls of steel to sit in a tin can with electronics less advanced than your cell phones and an explosion under your ass, eh?
Spending billions a year on something that doesnt directly benefit me at all? Why the fuck would i be excited by it. It takes balls of steel to invade middle eastern countries and completely control the infrastructure yet still make no discernable difference on gas prices but you dont see me giving a fuck about that either.
I know it's a cliche, but read a fucking history book instead of doing all that other shit.