Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the modulator masses

[Dandolin]

I mean, I really like the control scheme on there, but I would save up for analog, if I wasn't too bz orderin' up balls out Monobii

I wonder how the freq shift modes on the E520 compare?

[lordgalvar]

I've come around a bit on the EHX Ring Thing. I think what was happening when I played it:

1: it's not that much fun on drum machines (maybe a preamp thing?)
2: the memory function screws me up sometimes, which would reset the preset to something with less blend?
3: I think I was expecting more harmonic shift from the waveshape.
4: I didn't really understand the lights on which mode I was on...just realized all lights probably means pitch shifter?
5: it's ugly?

Anyway, it's better on guitar than drum machine by far.

E520 vs. Roman 285: E520 runs on a better computer and probably can auto balance signals resulting in a more HiFi digital sound. E520 has all the routings, modulation, and all that stuff in box. The Roman 285 is pretty basic and would need function generators/mixers to get close. E520 also has a wide range of carrier shapes iirc when I checked it out. (Haven't used either just guessing). E520 is too much for me though, haha.

Vs. 285e: it's analog with a digital carrier. Probably similar in concept to the 185, oscillator, phase shift 90 degrees, mixer, and 2 ring mods.

285e vs 360 20/20: 285e is more clean, but you'd need a good preamp to really use it with guitar. 20/20 is was more dirty and mine probably needs a good balance on the trim pots, but it works with whatever you plug in.

20/20 is weird though because the blend knob seems to be fully wet for ring mod in the center but if you want to use frequency shift (up/down) you've gotta turn the knob to the left of right to get full wet. Or something. It's weird and it trips me up because I can't tell if my ears are playing tricks on me. 20/20 can also only use its own oscillator.

Dandolin, you still got your eurorack? You might be able to patch a frequency shifter from 2 ring mods, a mixer, and an oscillator (a quad, a phaser, or several inverters). 185 style.

Anyway, Roman 285 spin is probably closet to ring thing, without the pitch modes.

[Dandolin]

cool - just need to add another ring mod - I assume two passive diode ring jobbies is the way to go?

I agree re: Ring Thing - surprisingly decent on guitar

[lordgalvar]

ModDemix works pretty ok. Two diode rings might get dicey unless you have a way to control amplitude... might just be fiddly with all the balancing.

Another cool trick is to invert a signal and then invert it again: it should be phase shifted 90 degrees (at least the intellijel one does this).

[Dowi]

i've tried a Ring Thing a couple months back and honestly was surprised by how it sounded. I expected it to suck, instead it was pretty good, specially with a single coil neck pickup ----> BELLS with huge low end (but that's just a setting i like with almost all ring mods ). The whole preset/knob thing is typical on EHX big boxes since a few years, i don't like it but i don't dislike it either, it's just..a way to do it, i guess That being said i only tried it on the fly with straight guitar-ring thing-amp so i don't know how it behaves with loops, dirts, drum machines or synths..

[lordgalvar]

It's a fun pedal for sure. I haven't played with ring thing much more lately. People in my house have and it's their favorite.

Lately my pedal "board" for jams has either been:
Hexe Carrier III -> Phosphene Psuedo-ringmod -> Power Grid (old LG setup style)
Or
Dutch Kazoo -> Melos Ring Mod (finally figured out the power supply) -> Hexe Carrier III

Everybody hates it haha. I'm trying to get choppier on my riffing.
I dunno. Been nostalgic lately.

Mostly just bumping the thread.

I don't really get Deep Space Radio-Bright from demos or descriptions. Everything, to me, comes off as not a ring modulator. It's like a bit crusher/fast tremolo. And the delay blend seems weird. Anyone got one? I'm not really into slow jam ambient...can the thing do metal drums? Paranoid solo? Devo?

[Chankgeez]

I almost bumped the thread the other day when this was listed:



https://reverb.com/item/34684736-gretsc ... black-blue

[lordgalvar]

That's not a bad price at all.

It's a fun pedal. Clones seem to be super cheap though. I have the Jen one in the original box. I should get it out some day.

My Melos has the original box, Styrofoam, batteries, cable, and adapter haha. True NOS.

[Dandolin]

Intermittent footswitch? Right up my alley

[Chankgeez]

It's like glitch, but cheaper?

[Dandolin]

marketing

[MrNovember]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Randy's Revenge. I had one a long time ago and I really loved how musical it was. Anything else I should consider before I pull the trigger?

I'm planning on putting it on a small pedalboard that will be used as my main sound. Likely something along the lines of:
Accountant > Randy's Revenge > Life Pedal (or maybe a Mini or a Fuck?) > Rubberneck > Levitation > amp

My other, bigger board is more focused on ambient sounds:
Tetanus Booster > Superego Plus (loop: Luminary > Tremstortion) > VPJR (tuner out to Pitchblack) > Rainbow Machine > DMM XO > Dispatch Master > ECCOS > amp

[Chankgeez]

I was gonna say "Monobius", but I'd not want Monobius on a small 'board.

Randy's is a good choice!

[Dandolin]

unless it was the board

Randy's is awesome but it's not necessarily the one if you really want harsh, cutting stuff which...doesn't sound like your goal?

[MrNovember]

Yeah my goal isn't really harsh sounds. I'm really kind of after the sound here:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el4VQS7Kw88[/youtube]
Not sure if it's actually a ring mod, but I am pretty sure I can get close enough with one