Down tuning and intonation



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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby waltdogg » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:02 pm

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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby Bassist_Diver » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:24 pm

aen wrote:
Bassist_Diver wrote:Sounds like you need a 7 (or 8) string.


That's a standard scale guitar with a wider neck, yo. They have heavier strings on the bottom.


Exactly - rather than tune down from E to Bb you can just downtune a half step and move over one string.
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby benjuro » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:18 am

repoman wrote:Can you put a different tuner on the guitar or drill out the hole on the stock one to make heavier gauge fit? I think you would need something more like a 70 for the low A#


The replacement tuner idea is worth considering, Hipshot does awesome work and are super helpful/easy to work with. You don't need to go quite as heavy as a 70, but it wouldn't hurt.
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby Nateispro » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:01 pm

When I wanted to go heavy with my strings I bought a set of 8 string hipshots and used the lower 6 and ditched the higher two. The 8 string set can hold super thick strings.
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby repoman » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:17 pm

benjuro wrote:
repoman wrote:Can you put a different tuner on the guitar or drill out the hole on the stock one to make heavier gauge fit? I think you would need something more like a 70 for the low A#


The replacement tuner idea is worth considering, Hipshot does awesome work and are super helpful/easy to work with. You don't need to go quite as heavy as a 70, but it wouldn't hurt.


Reason I'm thinking 70 (or higher) is I have a Baritone that has a 68 on it tuned to A and its a little more floppy than I'd like and this has a 27.78 inch scale length
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby Theta » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:25 am

Man... I use 13-64 in drop A on 25.5'' scale with no intonation or tuning problem at all.
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby Bon Hoga » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:42 am

Get a proper extended scale instrument. Let pussies play pussy guitars :D
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby waltdogg » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:38 pm

being a stickerler for intonation is a being a baby. get it as close as you can and just fucking play. non-musicians can't hear it. even torché is like "fuck it, the strings we use are too heavy to intonate on our guitars, still sounds good"
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby aen » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:02 pm

Bon Hoga wrote:Get a proper extended scale instrument. Let pussies play pussy guitars :D


I see your smiley, but the thing is, that loose string has a sound to it. A pretty cool one, IMO.
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby coldbrightsunlight » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:59 pm

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Re: Down tuning and intonation

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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby BetterOffShred » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:03 am

Ibanez RG8 is 27" scale and can be had for literally $200.. like Aen said, most 7 strings (cheapish production models) are tuned to B and typically 25.5" scale.

Getting standard 6 strings to anywhere close to A is a pain in the ass. I have my Universe to G with a 56, and the intonation is good, but it's rather floppy.
I'd just get an ERG on the cheap and be done with it.
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby John Matrix » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:09 pm

Its close enough where I can't really tell just by ear so I may just roll with it.

I know buying an extended scale guitar is the responsible choice but I haven't found a deal on one near me that isn't hella ugly...and honestly I am not a dude who wants a lot of guitars. I want the bare minimum amount of guitars to get by in the bands I play in, which is why I've been trying to get this one to work. If this guitar can't hang I'll bite the bullet.
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby benjuro » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:07 am

aen wrote:...that loose string has a sound to it.
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Re: Down tuning and intonation

Postby Faldoe » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:19 pm

benjuro wrote:
repoman wrote:Can you put a different tuner on the guitar or drill out the hole on the stock one to make heavier gauge fit? I think you would need something more like a 70 for the low A#


The replacement tuner idea is worth considering, Hipshot does awesome work and are super helpful/easy to work with. You don't need to go quite as heavy as a 70, but it wouldn't hurt.


Yeah, Hipshot makes great tuners. I have the Open Gear ones on my Baritone.

To the OP - do you have a Floyd Rose?

It sounds like maybe another guitar would be worth investing the time in if you have locking tuners and shit like that.

For A# I'd get a 7 string set and just not use the High E or I think D-Addario makes some good baritone sets.
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