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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Dandolin » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:03 am

gnomethrone wrote:Fender guitars creation process:
1. Write down design features of all pre-80's models on slips of paper
2. Place slips in a hat.
3. Pull them out one by one till you have this year's model
"Alright let's see, it's gonna be mustang shaped, have a 72 deluxe tele pickguard, a strat trem, aaaaand duo sonic pickups."
"What kind of bridge, sir?"
"Eh whatever we got laying around the warehouse."


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Re: A few NAMM nuggets

Postby Jwar » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:33 am

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echorec wrote:If I was someone who wanted a guitar to sound like a guitar, then I'd be fairly pleased with the results of the Westwood. Good for EQD. They can put some more money into their kids' college funds. Children are the future, gang. :group:


Good to see you guys are still dicks around here.


I prefer the term cocks.


I miss EQD presence here and I tell you that all the time man. :( I mean, I always say it on your instagram and demos and you don't love us anymore!!!

On the real though, the pedal sounds nice. I think we are just jaded by the fact that there have been so many clean type od's pushed out in the last couple of years. Honestly, like I said, I'd use it but I have other pedals that do the same thing. IE Darkglass B7K (does the clean sound perfect with a small amount of OD), Toneczar Dove (same). I'd still like to try it though.

For the record, we aren't all dick who only like bleeps and bloops. I like a good drive with my bass any day over some fucking PLL bs. Though I do have your PLL and love it. hah






I will say though, I'm super MEH on new effects here lately. I just haven't seen anything that's really grabbing me. It's not the developers faults. It's my fault for buying way too much over the years.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby ibarakishi » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:11 am

this has nothing to do with NAMM but i don't know where else to put it but here. Satellite Amplifiers are doing a small 20 watt amp called Scamp :
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https://www.facebook.com/SatelliteAmps/ ... =3&theater

basically is everything i have ever suggested for a minimalist amp head in all the threads here on ILF this past year. Don't know how it will sound, but i have hope. I love the overall design and simple/compact design of it most.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby echorec » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:40 am

Buchla has been sold again. A few years before his passing (2012), Don Buchla sold the company to new investors from Australia. Under the BEMI name, it was moved from CA to Oregon.

In 2015, litigation was getting underway because the full terms of the buyout had not been honored. He was claiming he was still owed six-figures from the sale, but it seems the investors had overestimated how quickly they could hit certain monetary goals. (and some charges were even uglier)

http://www.factmag.com/2015/03/25/don-b ... s-lawsuit/

Here's a fresh update---

Buchla U.S.A. has purchased historic synthesizer company Buchla Electronic Musical Instruments.

The company, originally founded by Don Buchla in the mid-1960s (as Buchla and Associates), is under new management and now headquartered in Minneapolis, Minnesota and headed by CEO Eric Fox.


Buchla U.S.A.’s lead design and engineering is being carried out by Joel Davel, who worked with Don for over 20 years. Production of the majority of Buchla modules is being handled by Dave Reilly, who was hand-picked by Don to manufacture Buchla products.


"I am really excited about telling the story of Don [Buchla], and working closely with Joel and Dave to develop new products in the spirit of Don… and even revisiting/reimagining some of his designs that never actually made it out into the wild!” said Buchla U.S.A. CEO Eric Fox. “I hope to involve as many of the artists and people that inspired Don as possible, moving forward. We owe it to him and the generations of new users to give them a sense of what he was all about.”


http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2018/ ... struments/

I don't think this will lower costs, but it may see the advancement of a few new products and hopefully it will sure up some of the reported QC issues of recent years.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby repoman » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:42 am

gnomethrone wrote:Fender guitars creation process:
1. Write down design features of all pre-80's models on slips of paper
2. Place slips in a hat.
3. Pull them out one by one till you have this year's model
"Alright let's see, it's gonna be mustang shaped, have a 72 deluxe tele pickguard, a strat trem, aaaaand duo sonic pickups."
"What kind of bridge, sir?"
"Eh whatever we got laying around the warehouse."


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What is Gibson's design process?
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Chankgeez » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:42 am

Yeah, I don't know if this has anything to do w/ NAMM either, but I no longer know where to post shit like this:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQSXOZRcSRY

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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby dubkitty » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:44 am

karmablock wrote:I believe these also belong in the Ugly Gear thread too.
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http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=106654&start=75#p1480136


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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby echorec » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:13 pm

Here's a pair of Waldorf notes. B&H has created a pre-order page for a new string synth / vocoder, called the STVC. It's essentially a Streichfett with a vocoder. I like my own Streichfett, but I'm not seeing the value here at $900. If the Streichfett was about $350 USD, I don't see a 4-octave keyboard making it worth nearly triple that. Considering that Roland has a boutique vocoder module for $350 (strings/vocoder), the price differential really doesn't make much sense. They're both digital after all. For $900, it seems fairly skeletal, compared to some of the recent offerings by other companies. You can acquire a 5-octave Yamaha or Roland with decent pads, organs, acoustic piano banks and more for $600-700. :idk:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/ ... sizer.html

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Unfortunately it seems Waldorf has come up well short of their original goal for the Quantum. They had been dancing around $3,000 to $3,500, but the pre-order price on Sweetwater and B&H shows a whopping $4,299. Eight voices of digital polyphony for $4K doesn't really compute, when you look at recent analog trends. I realize the Quantum is significantly more powerful than previous Waldorf models, but the Alesis Andromeda was 16 analog voices and $3,000 in 2010. I wonder how much of the $4,299 tag is tied up in that large touch screen (15-20%?). As much as I like the ability to edit waves and filters onscreen, $4K is really hard to get excited about, when you consider what can be done with soft synths and analog hardware models. You could purchase an OB-6 & a P~6 desktop module for about $4K, giving you 16 voices of analog power, along with 4 simultaneous SHARC-based effects. That's a lot of synth with double the polyphony. As someone who recently got the Arturia bundle (Buchla, CS-80, Moog, ARP, Oberheim) for $399, it's hard for me to justify spending 10x that on one digital synth, which appears to be an evolution of the Waldorf Nave app. For $4K, you could buy/build a powerful desktop computer, an army of soft synths, and an MPE controller. All I can do is shrug in disbelief at that price tag.

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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby echorec » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:23 pm

Yesterday, the DFAM was announced, but if you want to go beyond the video intro, there are 17 tracks on Soundcloud (percussion, drones, soundscapes).

https://soundcloud.com/moogmusicinc/sets

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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby echorec » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:31 pm



Banana sighting on Reverb (?!?)

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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby Strange Tales » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:47 pm

I'm excited about the Buchla selling. Everything I've heard about BEMI has been bottom-tier shit that totally turned me off.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby echorec » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:20 pm

Strange Tales wrote:I'm excited about the Buchla selling. Everything I've heard about BEMI has been bottom-tier shit that totally turned me off.


A couple of people on here have owned the Easel reissue, and I don't think either of them have voiced any displeasure, but I have heard (2nd hand) of negative experiences. I hope this rights the ship.

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First listen of the Reverb-X.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd2CYWGlk5f ... vidrainger
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby neonblack » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:01 pm

Whoa, rad.
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby nogodsnobedtimes » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:11 pm

repoman wrote:What is Gibson's design process?


"No one will want this unless it's a copy of the guitar we made in 1958. Throw some leftover parts on it, call it a Special or something, and lets clear this inventory."
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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes

Postby echorec » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:37 pm

And here's an earlier clip of what was likely the Reverb-X in the prototyping stage---

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYWqvqvjn__ ... vidrainger
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