"FUCK YOU ALL" -Velvet Hammer (Re-Hollywood sucks)

[hbombgraphics]

To some people this is all a debate game or some theoretical political theater. So they have no problem making everything into an exercise in hypothetical scenarios, arguing about how someone is arguing wrong or picking apart wording instead of discussing the issue like compassionate, intelligent adults. In reality, even though sexual abuse and assault happen to men too, it's likely every man on this message board has at least one woman close to them in their life (if not several) who've been raped or molested and I'd venture almost every woman you know has been at least harassed in school, at work or by a stranger in public. I don't feel comfortable telling other people's stories, but several women in my life have some very intense versions of these types of experiences. Ranging from rape to serial child molestation and I have had suspicions that a lot more people I grew up with or are/have been close with have had similar experiences, but never disclosed it explicitly to me.

So when people start slinging around political buzzwords as insults and picking apart the wording of someone's statements, it brings up a lot of anger. When someone just wants to find a way to win an argument, but the other person is dealing with very real and intense tragedy and actual human lives, trauma and misery that has tangible and terrible long term consequences.

Very important things to say.

Strongly agree: important to understand that this is probably a topic where you don't get to be clever or parse verbs to win an online argument

[D.o.S.]

Every troll is secret Wittgenstein!

This thread is hilarious.

I used to think The Velvet Hammer was pretty lame, but now that his over-moderation is adding controversy, I think he's bringing real value to the board.

You do have hella alts and a distinctive style.

But, no, just you and shalabama. I am a big fan of your sass.

[waltdogg]

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[Invisible Man]

Every troll is secret Wittgenstein!

This thread is hilarious.

I used to think The Velvet Hammer was pretty lame, but now that his over-moderation is adding controversy, I think he's bringing real value to the board.

You do have hella alts and a distinctive style.

But, no, just you and shalabama. I am a big fan of your sass.

You also telegraph your moves with your handles. But you know this.

[actual]

Oh ffs. What is it even about jerking off in front of someone. I don't get it.

https://www.spin.com/2017/11/louis-c-k- ... ork-times/

[jrfox92]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... story.html

Ugh.

[Kacey Y]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/woman-says-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-encounter-when-she-was-14-he-was-32/2017/11/09/1f495878-c293-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html

Ugh.

In before "The 70's were a different time maaaaan" nonsense.

[popvulture]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/woman-says-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-encounter-when-she-was-14-he-was-32/2017/11/09/1f495878-c293-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html

Ugh.

In before "The 70's were a different time maaaaan" nonsense.

Ha! I was just having this conversation today with a coworker. Not in the forgiving/permissive sense, but just saying that really did happen a lot more back then. A HUGE number of rock guys were known to have slept with 15-ish year old girls. So damn creepy.

[hbombgraphics]

From the article
"She also was concerned that her background — three divorces and a messy financial history — might undermine her credibility."

It's flipping crap that people still have to think like this.

Glad she came forward,

[popvulture]

Oh god yeah that's insane. Apparently Rose McGowan was told she shouldn't pursue charges against Weinstein back in the day because she'd done nudity in films and it might therefore undermine her credibility. Stuff like that really is some of the most ludicrous to me out of all this sick shit.

[hbombgraphics]

Oh god yeah that's insane. Apparently Rose McGowan was told she shouldn't pursue charges against Weinstein back in the day because she'd done nudity in films and it might therefore undermine her credibility. Stuff like that really is some of the most ludicrous to me out of all this sick shit.

It's how this usually gets handled both in domestic violence and celebrity rape cases,
Like the Ringer Kobe's lawyers put the girl in Denver through, and he pretty much walked away clean.

[popvulture]

Yep, fantastic world we live in.

[hbombgraphics]

Yep, fantastic world we live in.

It's unfortunate but I do think the conversation is changing, at least it is in my circles.

Hopefully Victim blaming will continue to die out as people come forward.
Especially as people start to learn that this type of act has more to do with power and control than it does with a woman dressing a certain way or having a certain reputation.

[GWFH]

I really want to come in on the anti-Hollywood-rape side, but I feel like I got here too late and the only space left is in the pro-Hollywood-rape side. V V

[aens_wife]

You guys keep talking about this is the past tense...nothing has changed. I've been harassed at every job I've ever had, except the company I co own.

Every woman I know has a story that would turn your stomach.

And all of these men will have comebacks in a few years and their careers will be fine. See Mel Gibson currently.

I'm so Fucking angry right now.