"FUCK YOU ALL" -Velvet Hammer (Re-Hollywood sucks)

[Invisible Man]

Sorry I killed ILF friends.

This is either a confession to murder or it's missing a comma. Punctuation people. Saving lives.

I mean...punctuation, people.

[Jwar]

This thread was killed by the fact that people cannot have an exchange without inputting their own emotional human condition or be civil to one another without acting like a troll. I guess I realize now it's my fault for bring something that I thought we'd all agree on to the table.


ILF I love you all but sometimes man...I just hate this fucking place. That's a shitty feeling.

[coldbrightsunlight]

I like to believe people are still capable of that and we just messed up once (or eleventy times).

But each thread, conversation and interaction is a chance to be better and I don't think the best reaction to "it's difficult to talk about controversial things without this happening" is not to try at all.

[waltdogg]

you've got to be fucking kidding me. 4 more pages of arguing?

i've already said my piece.

[D.o.S.]

This thread was killed by the fact that people cannot have an exchange without inputting their own emotional human condition or be civil to one another without acting like a troll. I guess I realize now it's my fault for bring something that I thought we'd all agree on to the table.


ILF I love you all but sometimes man...I just hate this fucking place. That's a shitty feeling.

Or:

[The]original comment was maybe just poorly articulated but it sounded like rape apologist nonsense. Digging in your heels with a legal definition of rape in a thread about rape culture is completely tone deaf. The legal system is a huge part of “rape culture” and how it is sustained.

You’ve been simultaneously playing the victim and throwing a vicious pottymouth tantrum. You seem to think you’ve got some moral high ground but you’ve been acting like a ranting ass in this thread. You’ve got your fedora all wrapped up in a bunch with your panties.

[D.o.S.]

Sometimes when a lot of people point out a problematic post, it's a problematic post, not just the circle jerk hive mind or whatever.

[Pete]

Yeah, I'm with D.o.S. and ritz, on this one

[jrfox92]

Honestly, the confusion over who's the problem is incomprehensible to me.
One guy goes completely fucking mental, and somehow it's the forum's fault?

I know reading comprehension on this board is non-existent, but let me translate this.

Piss off, you fucking crybaby.

I'll be happy to tell anyone else, who needs it, to fuck off when I get back.

But let's be honest you're a fucking child who wants to play in the sandbox. You think it's more important to show your little ass for your douchy e-buddies like that pusshead JR.

You're a little bitch with a dirty diaper who stalks me from thread-to-thread. Just shut the fuck up. You're the JHS of message board posters. How can anyone tell you apart? You're both laconic milquetoasts who have formed your entire identity off the work of other people. JHS has their stolen circuits and you have your GIFs. Without other people's work to stand behind, you have no voice. You're just a stuffed shirt and khakis, like the world's most-vanilla mannequin.

You are a flaming, fucking halfwit to continue to drop your fucking diaper and show your sphincter like the uptight, self-righteous shit-for-brains you've always been. Again, let's be honest. You don't give a fuck about what I actually meant. You just want a justification to carry on your personal crusade of showing your rear.

If people want to know why the board is so rigid and stagnant, then they need to look no further than our resident box of mothballs, Mr. Pinkass.

Please note, I only decided to directly quote his insults, rather than his general ranting.

[$harkToootth]

Mr. Fox, I love and respect you but I want to pose a counter thought.
All of those came after a series of posts 'attacking' Mr. Rec (I think we're looking at page three after the Gira link as the inciting incident)?
I'll be the first to admit this next point isn't great but, since I do PM with a some of the people echo attacked, I would wager these people (I'm including you Mr. Fox) don't really see these insults as that big of a deal? I don't agree with his methodology but...I don't know...it's like if someone called me a "Soy Boy" or something not-ironically. I really wouldn't care (I'd probably find it amusing tbh ). If anyone was actually offended by those posts I apologize.

[Jwar]

Ok. I'll let my real feelings be known here. I think there has been a massive mob mentality on the forums lately. When I say lately, I mean the last year or two. I have almost left the forums a handful of times because honestly, I cannot stand it. Not only that but we have the PC crew coming in and judging everyone based on everything. It gets old and I'm really really tired of it.

Now, what's funny to me is I've spoken with a lot of you folks individually and you are totally different when you're not in a group dynamic. I am the same motherfucker no matter where I go. I am outspoken, rude and sometimes pompous but that's just who the fuck I am.

I love ILF. I love the members here, but I really really think that folks need a reality check. Maybe we all need to step back from the keyboards for awhile because the level of hate coming out of this place lately is disgusting.

I've contacted Tom and asked him to destroy this thread, so just an FYI. Might as well mosey on.

[raj007]

The only thing I can muster after reading this thread:

Thanks Obama

[D.o.S.]

Ah yeah the hate of "hot take". Very serious. Much PC.

What's PC about calling out someone for saying something stupid?

[jrfox92]

I, actually, didn't respond until after his first "fuck you" rant.
Even then, it was a trump gif signifying dismissal and a joke referring to the famed Manny.

After his second round of fuck you's, I laughed when D.o.S. pointed out that he didn't number the rant properly.

After his third round of fuck you's (where he referred to me in his narcissistic rant about how the ILF elites are targeting him or some shit), I posted an eye rolling gif and sarcastically "accepted" him as the victim.

At that point he started directly insulting me.

So, yeah, fuck that.
echorec is doing, basically, the same thing Manny did right before he got booted.
He started the downward spiral, and then continued to push it forward as much as he could.

It's not a conspiracy or a mob.
Acting like it is is just a tactic to dismiss the genuine concerns other people have with this kind of behavior.

[$harkToootth]

But each thread, conversation and interaction is a chance to be better and I don't think the best reaction to "it's difficult to talk about controversial things without this happening" is not to try at all.

I agree with this 100%.

jwar, nothing but love and respect for you too (and you clearly have demonstrated your ability to handle/mitigate difficult situation in your real life), but I don't think it's prudent to have a thread deleted just because it goes awry. All things considered some names have been said but no one is physically threatening anyone. I think an open discussion is absolutely essential to forums. Tom and The Velvet Hammer have been through enough this year with difficult threads. I think there needs to be a better way of the user base dealing with it.

[Jwar]

Ah yeah the hate of "hot take". Very serious. Much PC.

What's PC about calling out someone for saying something stupid?

I wasn't talking about this thread when I said that.