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Dungus wrote:Is there going to be another run? I have the pennies and hope I don't miss the mailout again if so. Going to go watch UCs demo video again. The vocal fry drives me craazzyy. Faulty lead simulator :)
I think I should have the next batch ready in one or two weeks.
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I've been interested in this pedal for a while, and just started looking into it again... A few questions:

-I just noticed that the ST (faulty cable simulator) mode is momentary only, something I didn't catch earlier. This is disappointing to me, as it seems like one of the pedal's coolest and most useful settings (and one I could see myself using often). Any reason this mode is momentary only, when every other mode has latching and momentary options? Or am I just misunderstanding the way it works?

-Could someone explain to me the Bypass footswitch at the top? Cause I'm still not sure if I understand it. It's an on/off switch, right? The other 2 footswitches won't activate anything unless the top footswitch is stomped on? So you have to stomp two switches just to use the pedal? If so, wouldn't that make the pedal harder to use in a performance setting? Again, I might not be understanding everything correctly.

-I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the "Wet signal only" (IL and IM) modes. Does that mean you can't play anything over the glitches, and if that's the case, than how are these modes useful?

I hope this post doesn't come across too harsh, as I think it's a very cool pedal that I might get at some point. I'm just trying to understand it better.
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Re: Stamme[n] by Drolo (demo on page 10!)

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Pete wrote:I've been interested in this pedal for a while, and just started looking into it again... A few questions:

-I just noticed that the ST (faulty cable simulator) mode is momentary only, something I didn't catch earlier. This is disappointing to me, as it seems like one of the pedal's coolest and most useful settings (and one I could see myself using often). Any reason this mode is momentary only, when every other mode has latching and momentary options? Or am I just misunderstanding the way it works?

-Could someone explain to me the Bypass footswitch at the top? Cause I'm still not sure if I understand it. It's an on/off switch, right? The other 2 footswitches won't activate anything unless the top footswitch is stomped on? So you have to stomp two switches just to use the pedal? If so, wouldn't that make the pedal harder to use in a performance setting? Again, I might not be understanding everything correctly.

-I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the "Wet signal only" (IL and IM) modes. Does that mean you can't play anything over the glitches, and if that's the case, than how are these modes useful?

I hope this post doesn't come across too harsh, as I think it's a very cool pedal that I might get at some point. I'm just trying to understand it better.
1. Right footswitch grabs whatever is in the buffer (like a freeze pedal) and adds the broken cable to that and you can play normally over it. Left effects all incoming signal. You can use both at the same time (freeze signal stutters and so does all incoming). The reason they're not latching is simply because I didn't want them to be, haha.

2. Bypass footswitch is simply a matter of making your signal not go through the circuit and hence the FV-1 chip when not using the effect. The signal has to pass through in order to go through the buffer. So, it's for people who want to keep their toan analog when they're not using Stammen. I personally can't hear the difference, but we've all heard stories of the signal "digitizing" and the FV-1 clipping when hit by hot signals (I keep mine after fuzzies and have had no problem)

3. Because the signal passes through the circuit your dry signal is controlled by the dry knob, meaning you can lower it or boost it. The wet only modes allow you to do the CD-skipping effect, which is my favorite kind of glitch (signal stops dead in its track with no further dry signal and whatever's in the buffer repeats/stutters). It also allows you to add more to the stutter sample by playing without a dry signal and tapping the momentary hold button.

Hope I answered your question. Let me know if not. :lol:
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these are very valid questions :-)
- about the ST setting, the right switch is latching, freezes a sound and is processed through the sample & hold trem (the faulty cable thing)
the left switch applies the same sample & hold trem to the dry signal, but for technical reasons that one is just momentary.
a question that is of interest for me: for you, is the interesting part of this setting the one where it chops the frozen sample or the dry signal?

- the bypass switch on top is to avoid your signal going through the DSP chip when you are not using the pedal.
If you know you will be using it, you can switch it on in advance so that it is ready for looping., freezing, whatnot when necessary.

- The wet only modes cut the dry signal indeed, so that when something is being looped you only hear that.


Now the fun part :-)
I have been working on a stamme[n] V2 where I condensed the 4 looping patches into one and got rid of the bypass switch since the bypass will happen automatically when you engage the pedal.

The right foot switch that engages the loops/freezes will work both as momentary and latching. One short press latches. short press again to bypass. A longer press will be momentary and bypasses the pedal again when you release it.

This has allowed me to free up 3 slots for new and exciting patches :!!!:

right now I have filled these slots with :
- a random sample size looper: each time you press the looping switch, your signal will repeat with a different, random sample size
- the patch out of the "molecular patches" list called pitch glitcholay
- a kind of tape player where the control knob will be able to speed a sample up 2x or slow it down 2x, plus loop the sample

they are not set in stone though and I am really open for any suggestions :-)

the one thing is that the broken cable on the dry side will still be momentary. I could make it latching without any issues, but the problem is that there is no LED to indicate that it is engaged, by some technical oddities adding that would complicate the whole thing a lot :-(

I am currently impatiently waiting for my proto circuit boards to test all this. will keep you guys posted
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Hah UC you were faster than me :-) Sorry for having repeated what you already explained ;-)
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drolo wrote:)
I have been working on a stamme[n] V2.

This has allowed me to free up 3 slots for new and exciting patches ;-)

right now I have filled these slots with
- a random sample size looper: each time you press the looping switch, your signal will repeat with a different, random sample size
- the patch out of the "molecular patches" list called pitch glitcholay
- a kind of tape player where the control know will be able to speed a sample up 2x or slow it down 2x, plus loop the sample
These three potentials are pretty exciting. Especially the third option.

I have tried using the bypass switch rhythmically after audio has been captured in the buffer.
Seems to be an interesting way to get "controlled" patterns (per foot depressions).

Not sure how many current (or future) users would go that route. I need to spend more time
to find my own druthers in usage. So far the variety of modes and variety of ways of impacting
how the pedal manipulates sound are all very compelling.

As for the "wet only modes", I would probably use that only when kneeling over to knob-tweak,
in which case just turning down the dry knob would accomplish the same thing. Which is why
the V2 consolidation and opening up of 3 new mode slots is super exciting.
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#myboner

I have a Stammen and a Giant Hogweed coming soonish. :) I am excite!
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Glitcholay is my favorite patch btw. I think that one is a must have. I use my Molecular Compactor all the time with that algo.

Personally I'd dig a latching switch over momentary but it sounds like you have some shit to deal with if you do that. Not a big enough deal to me to say work it out. LOL.

I'd love to have a chorus type effect with this like the Hexe Revolver has. Not sure if you have tried one or heard one, but it has some really odd settings that make it super useful and strange.

I can't wait to hear a demo of the new one!!! It sounds awesome!
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What is the chorus effect on a Revolver? I've never noticed anything like that.
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Short continuous sampling with lower mix, I guess
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UglyCasanova wrote:
3. Because the signal passes through the circuit your dry signal is controlled by the dry knob, meaning you can lower it or boost it. The wet only modes allow you to do the CD-skipping effect, which is my favorite kind of glitch (signal stops dead in its track with no further dry signal and whatever's in the buffer repeats/stutters). It also allows you to add more to the stutter sample by playing without a dry signal and tapping the momentary hold button.
Do the wet-only modes produce the Raptio-type of glitch? Can you get the same type of sound in the wet+dry modes, by turning down the dry level knob all the way?
drolo wrote:these are very valid questions :-)
- about the ST setting, the right switch is latching, freezes a sound and is processed through the sample & hold trem (the faulty cable thing)
the left switch applies the same sample & hold trem to the dry signal, but for technical reasons that one is just momentary.
a question that is of interest for me: for you, is the interesting part of this setting the one where it chops the frozen sample or the dry signal?
The right switch is latching? I was going from the description from the Stammen manuel which says, "Both switches are momentary and can be used at the same time." for the ST mode. Also in Ugly Casanova's demo, he holds both switches (momentary use) during his demonstration of the ST mode. Also after re-watching his demo, I 'd say the coolest part of this mode is the right footswitch chopping the frozen signal. The left footswitch chopping the dry signal sounds awesome as well! They're both really cool effects.




drolo wrote:Now the fun part :-)
I have been working on a stamme[n] V2 where I condensed the 4 looping patches into one and got rid of the bypass switch since the bypass will happen automatically when you engage the pedal.

The right foot switch that engages the loops/freezes will work both as momentary and latching. One short press latches. short press again to bypass. A longer press will be momentary and bypasses the pedal again when you release it.

This has allowed me to free up 3 slots for new and exciting patches :!!!:

right now I have filled these slots with :
- a random sample size looper: each time you press the looping switch, your signal will repeat with a different, random sample size
- the patch out of the "molecular patches" list called pitch glitcholay
- a kind of tape player where the control knob will be able to speed a sample up 2x or slow it down 2x, plus loop the sample

they are not set in stone though and I am really open for any suggestions :-)

the one thing is that the broken cable on the dry side will still be momentary. I could make it latching without any issues, but the problem is that there is no LED to indicate that it is engaged, by some technical oddities adding that would complicate the whole thing a lot :-(

I am currently impatiently waiting for my proto circuit boards to test all this. will keep you guys posted
This sounds very, very cool! I loved the glitcholay patch from listening to the Molecular Compactor demos, and I bet it would be a really cool function in a Stamen V2!
Would the 4 hold/freeze functions still be available?
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New version already... I have the worst luck haha
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