Cry of the Rock Berry

[BossMann73]

If a pedal builder can't handle criticism for their decisions as to what they post publicly, than said pedal builders shouldn't post their opinions on the internet where there will inevitably be someone who disagrees. I know the millenial generation was never told no and as such you don't exactly know what to do when someone disagrees with you other than to lash out immaturely, but Ryan's a big boy and he explained himself here as a man. I took his explanation at face value and apologized. I guess that aspect was missed in the 2 minute hate session so prevalent here. Even got called a Nazi sympathizer again. Lol! If it wasn't so sad it would be funny, but no...it's sad.

[Somnambulance]

I've been a fan and supported of Big Game for a couple years now, so this post is meant to be a word of friendly advice for Ryan, who just lost a customer in me and people I speak to. He lost me because of an instagram post saying that people who "align with the beliefs" of the the idiotic neo-nazis are not welcome to do business with him. That's his right and perogative, but I would caution him on a couple points.

1) Probably about .0000001 percent of 1 percent of the population of the USA aligns with the beliefs of those guys in your picture. The media has you fooled that Trumps base is racist, but as a former Trump supporter, I certainly never aligned with those beliefs, but somehow I get the impression that you are lumping me in with these fools in Virginia. This brings me to my second point.

2) Lumping people in to groups is a bigoted stance, and one that is ironic since you are trying to say that bigots are not welcome to buy your products.

3) Back to point one, are you really implying that everyone in the midwest and rust belt states and blue collar workers or anyone else who believed Trumps bullshit and voted for him are Nazis? To me they're hard working people who got fucked by the criminal syndicate known as the US Govt/Military Industrial/Wall Street complex and rightly wanted change. My only hope for these people is that they realize they got fucked over by Trump and become even more militant against the NWO regime. But 99.9999999 percent of Trump voters voted for him because of his economic populism and ending all the wars and getting along with the world. All things that turned out to be bullshit no doubt, but you'd be well served to actually align with these people rather than fight them because in actuality, their fight and your fight are one and the same.......the fight against tyranny and oppression. It's just too bad that this pied piper turned out to be a complete bullshit artist.

Anyhow, it is your right to run your business as you see fit, but just know that it alienates you from your customer base, even if some people like your bigoted and extremely small sighted political stance. I was ready to buy the Bedlam B-Stock and was just about to hit "buy" when I saw that post on your instagram. Even though I hate political extremists on all sides, and that includes these bozos who dress up in sheets etc, I still got the distinct impression that you meant anyone on the right, and that shit pissed me off. I know that the easy reaction from you would be to say "good, fuck off Nazi. I don't need or want your business." But you are lumping the wrong people in with your narrow view of the political realities of this country, and in my opinion, you are doing it to your detriment. I truly thought you were smarter than this.

Having said that, Ryan makes great stuff and I am sad that I will never get a chance to own anything else of his. Politics sucks Ryan, and you should never mix it with your business.

Jesus Christ... What?

First off, I know you have supported me and stuff, and I thank you for that. Ok, now that that is out of the way.

I never lumped Trump supporters into that group. You did. You have assumed this stereotype and you have created this delusional thought that people who hate NAZISM and WHITE SUPREMECY are also against Trump supporter base. This is not politics, this is not pro-left. This is me standing up for the morality that I hold myself and others to. There are no politics involved in this. I am saying if you support ideas of bigotry and ignorance, then fuck off. So if you don't support those Manny, then why are you offended? I never mentioned trump ever.

It's strange that you would get that impression, that I meant the entire "right." Because those men with torches represented NAZISM and the KKK. There were chanting hate and ignorance. So is that what you think the right is? If so, again, it is YOU who perpetuates this stereotype.

If you don't want to buy any of my stuff because you offended yourself with my post, then that is perfectly fine with me.

Also this is all I am going to say about this. I was pretty pumped I got to share this pedal to you guys... don't ruin this for me Manny.

I'll take your on your word that you only meant the idiotic Neo Nazis and will retract my post with an apology to you. It's just that this anti-Trump business in the pedal world is getting out of hand and perhaps I just thought you were "aligning" with that particular hate group. After all, Trump supporters have been called Nazi by the left now for months. Is it really so completely foreign to you that I might have thought the way I did? Jeez, even jrfox called me a Nazi in this thread alone! And this after I went to great lengths to make it very clear in my first post that I am completely anti-gov't, anti-wall street, anti war, anti-NWO, and yes, anti-Trump and anti-Nazi. See, we all probably agree with eachother a lot more than we disagree and that is my ultimate point.

Anyhow, in the spirit of fairness I will not say anything else other than I am glad you responded and clarified that for me. Just in parting though, my main thesis still applies IMO. Keep your personal politics out of it. While I agree that Nazis suck and need to die in the dustbin of history, to the extent that they exist at all they are a very tiny minority of a tiny minoroty and as such is it even worth posting the post you did? After all, how many Nazis are actually lining up to buy boutique pedals these days?

Dude there's forums for this kind of stuff, you don't have to cuckold yourself with pedals.

[nshuman]

Dude there's forums for this kind of stuff, you don't have to cuckold yourself with pedals.

He's probably been banned from all of them though.

[Mosfed]

Seriously? Trump supporters thought he would end all wars? You learn something new everyday.

[D.o.S.]

A lot of people voted for trump because they perceived him as less of a hawk than Clinton.

I don't agree with the action that resulted but it'd be hard to be more hawkish than Clinton, esp. In regards to places like Syria.

[nshuman]

Seriously? Trump supporters thought he would end all wars? You learn something new everyday.

Extremely low information voters.

[ziltoid]

BossMann......stop doing this in every fucking thread please jesus christ

We told you guys when he joined that he was a fucking dick always up to that kind of shit over at Talkbass.

>>>fast forward>>>

Turns out he's a fucking dick always doing that kind of shit on ILF now.

Whoddatought.

[Chankgeez]

I'm sorry we doubted you, ziltoid.

[nshuman]

BossMann......stop doing this in every fucking thread please jesus christ

We told you guys when he joined that he was a fucking dick always up to that kind of shit over at Talkbass.

>>>fast forward>>>

Turns out he's a fucking dick always doing that kind of shit on ILF now.

Whoddatought.

This is the post that I have stopped myself from making many times recently.

[D.o.S.]

BossMann......stop doing this in every fucking thread please jesus christ

We told you guys when he joined that he was a fucking dick always up to that kind of shit over at Talkbass.

>>>fast forward>>>

Turns out he's a fucking dick always doing that kind of shit on ILF now.

Whoddatought.

And like goroth said, you can always go to Talkbass if you want a Bossman free zone.

[Chankgeez]

I don't necessarily want a "BossMann Free Zone", I just want a zone where BossMann doesn't sling unprovoked insults (or if he does, he should be prepared for the consequences).

[taco satori]

I just want a zone where BossMann doesn't sling unprovoked insults (or if he does, he should be prepared for the consequences).

[sylnau]

Me... I don't like how BM provokes things and start a fire (I really dislike that behaviour)... but on the other side, I don't like how others bash on him. There's way to tell things without insult.

It's all good for me if he like ILF and want to post here... but that behaviour need to stop.

Both side are wrong.
(TWTS)

[ziltoid]

Both side are wrong.
(TWTS)

Are you a La Meute sympathizer? Y/N?

[sylnau]

NO