I'll just answer the first part here. Knobs is specifically asked by builders to do demos. If he makes money from it, awesome! That's totally different.baremountain wrote:How is this any different from a Knobs video? Maybe Knobs is a bad example bc I imagine he works directly w the manufacturers he demos, but what about any other unsolicited guitar pedal demo, like Pedals & Effects? Are those unethical? They definitely receive ad revenue by showing off the limits of another builder's intellectual propertyjwar wrote:Using these spin chips to make any profit that doesn't go to the builders, IE using it in a youtube video where you accept money from folks (no offense Magpie but I think that's a bit unethical).But the builders also benefit because people say "oh shit, that's cool!" and go buy the pedals, so what's the harm in giving a little kickback to the person who took the time to demo the pedal (or in this case, concept)?
It's not much different than rehousing a pedal IMO, you're just taking a movable part from two things you own & switching them. If Simon or UC were to sell this, it'd be hella unethical, but all the attributes of the original manufacturers are being acknowledged & their products are still being advertised the same way they are in any other pedal youtube video, so I see no real harm in this.
People also sell circuit bent shit and upsell pedals and make money off builders' work all the time - and it's not like any of us are even suggesting to do something like that. The thought is why not combine shit to reduce space and increase utility. If you like mixing your shampoo and conditioner together to save space, and you paid for both, then it's not really that bad to rehouse the conditioner into the shampoo bottle you paid for. Now if you're going around selling this as a new product & don't acknowledge that you've used somone else's base materials, that's not very ethical.
I think all of us care about the builders we like being paid at the end of the day, and none of us are goign to willingly sabotage them. I, for one, am regretting selling my Super Radical now
When I rehouse something and make changes, builders do not like it. That's why I don't offer mods. I'll offer simple upgrades like jacks, LED's or something to that effect. Most things I've rehoused have been done because of the look more than the guts. Still it does void your warranty with the company usually.
Re other demo's done. I don't know. Jeff (Excane) does them at his expense. So I know he makes dick off them, not sure what others do. I know he asks the builders before he demos them. If I do a demo, which aren't nearly as good, I never make a dime off them.
I think we're skirting away from the issue and trying to make comparisons here and I'll restate what I said previously. You can justify anything if you want to.
) into something more sinister. I know for a fact there is a way to copy code from the chips that is pretty easy, and once someone does a video about that say hello to mass cloning of these dsp pedals