Well, at least, they're releasing the Amelia Earhart files...

[Seance]

^Schooled by a Canadian?

I was born on an Army base in California and have lived in California, New York, Maryland, Texas, and Tennessee.
So I actually received all of my schoolin' in the US of A.

[Jwar]

It's not hard to look around and see the extreme polarizing positions of each candidate, they aren't running for moderates, they are gobbling up extremists, it forces everyone into an us or them mentality. Powerful people have always divided the less powerful in order to maintain power, this isn't new and it's not a conspiracy, it's history.

I totally disagree with this assessment. Hillary Clinton is a moderate. So is Barack Obama.
The 'extreme' of the Democratic party is full of Progressives who feel like the system should
work equally well for all citizens. That's hardly a polarizing position to "maintain power".
It's the Republican party that has become 'extremist' in order to disenfranchise the working
poor who they appeal to. Death Tax? Lower the capital gains tax? Unless you are super wealthy
these aren't your 'real' issues, these are 'aspirational issues'. Like the "Joe the Plumber" BS.

I'm not quite sure you could called Clinton a true moderate but the definition of a moderate is so subjective, I guess she could be. I see her more as a Moderate Republican pretending to be a Liberal Democrat. Now she is liberal in a lot of her views, but she's also conservative on many of them. Hmmmm...maybe she is a fucking moderate. Maybe I'm high right now? Maybe?

[Chankgeez]

^Schooled by a Canadian?

I was born on an Army base in California and have lived in California, New York, Maryland, Texas, and Tennessee.
So I actually received all of my schoolin' in the US of A.

I had a feeling, but look where you live now.

[JonnyAngle]

It's not hard to look around and see the extreme polarizing positions of each candidate, they aren't running for moderates, they are gobbling up extremists, it forces everyone into an us or them mentality. Powerful people have always divided the less powerful in order to maintain power, this isn't new and it's not a conspiracy, it's history.

I totally disagree with this assessment. Hillary Clinton is a moderate. So is Barack Obama.
The 'extreme' of the Democratic party is full of Progressives who feel like the system should
work equally well for all citizens. That's hardly a polarizing position to "maintain power".
It's the Republican party that has become 'extremist' in order to disenfranchise the working
poor who they appeal to. Death Tax? Lower the capital gains tax? Unless you are super wealthy
these aren't your 'real' issues, these are 'aspirational issues'. Like the "Joe the Plumber" BS.

I'm not quite sure you could called Clinton a true moderate but the definition of a moderate is so subjective, I guess she could be. I see her more as a Moderate Republican pretending to be a Liberal Democrat. Now she is liberal in a lot of her views, but she's also conservative on many of them. Hmmmm...maybe she is a fucking moderate. Maybe I'm high right now? Maybe?

Everyone is the opposite of what they say they are.

Dems are "open minded and welcoming to all" ..unless you're a rich white man
Reps are "less government control" ..but lets make more laws to protect our freedom

et cetera

[Jwar]

I'm moderately hard right now.

[Seance]

It's not hard to look around and see the extreme polarizing positions of each candidate, they aren't running for moderates, they are gobbling up extremists, it forces everyone into an us or them mentality. Powerful people have always divided the less powerful in order to maintain power, this isn't new and it's not a conspiracy, it's history.

I totally disagree with this assessment. Hillary Clinton is a moderate. So is Barack Obama.
The 'extreme' of the Democratic party is full of Progressives who feel like the system should
work equally well for all citizens. That's hardly a polarizing position to "maintain power".
It's the Republican party that has become 'extremist' in order to disenfranchise the working
poor who they appeal to. Death Tax? Lower the capital gains tax? Unless you are super wealthy
these aren't your 'real' issues, these are 'aspirational issues'. Like the "Joe the Plumber" BS.

I'm not quite sure you could called Clinton a true moderate but the definition of a moderate is so subjective, I guess she could be. I see her more as a Moderate Republican pretending to be a Liberal Democrat. Now she is liberal in a lot of her views, but she's also conservative on many of them. Hmmmm...maybe she is a fucking moderate. Maybe I'm high right now? Maybe?

On the political spectrum I see Hillary as a Moderate. Within the Democratic party she is closer to what
used to pass as a liberal Republican (hawkish, pro big business, but liberal on social issues). But now the
Republicans have jammed the levers all the way to the right, so people have spent the Obama years
trying to get elected in order to prove that government doesn't work so that they can privatize
everything.

Which is why Trump likes Putin so much—the public wealth/infrastructure/public works are the last
untouched resources for "job creators" to pillage and mine. They want to strip the copper pipes out of
the house that American democracy and prosperity built and bundle everyone's debt so that they can
sell it back to them. If all taxpaying voters are living in indentured servitude and working only to pay off
their never-ending debt, then the "job creators" can sit up top with all the wealth and just walk away from
the mayhem they create by destroying companies and communities in an effort to create "constant growth"
(even if by downsizing and leveraged buyouts) in order to pay constantly growing dividends to Wall Street investors.

[rustywire]

True.

(I can't wait until the full integration of the Internet of Fuzz. Then we'll truly be united.)

every thing is better with fuzz.

We should run the candidates through some pedals

[Jwar]

Putin loves Trump because he wants to have butt sex with him.

No but really I agree with everything you said.

[snipelfritz]

Seance for Special One 2016

[Seance]

^Schooled by a Canadian?

I was born on an Army base in California and have lived in California, New York, Maryland, Texas, and Tennessee.
So I actually received all of my schoolin' in the US of A.

I had a feeling, but look where you live now.

Yeah. True.

And the parliamentary system is often just as frustrating as the US's two-party thingamajig.
It's still hard for me to get over the fact that in Canada I vote for the local candidate, and
by virtue of doing so am tacitly approving that party's leader for the role of Prime Minister.
So if I see one candidate for Prime Minister that I like, then I have to vote for the local
affiliate, even if I think that person is a yahoo or schlub or dingleberry.

But at least there were some New Democratic Party (a democratic socialist party) candidates
here a few years ago that I really liked. Jack Layton was great... but the current NDP don't
have any current politicians with the appeal and chutzpah of Bernie Sanders.

[Seance]

True.

(I can't wait until the full integration of the Internet of Fuzz. Then we'll truly be united.)

every thing is better with fuzz.

We should run the candidates through some pedals

Unfortunately I think the current political process in the US already runs the candidates through a fuzz pedal.
After the candidates are fed through the machine they sound indistinguishable from one other. Their signals get "processed"
and clipped until they don't sound like the original. And often you pay a high price for secret, unseen "mojo" circuits, when
it's mostly the same old fuzz pedal in a new housing.

This election cycle is different though! Trump is selling an actual box of rocks and not even bothering to hand-paint some
pretty colors on the outside. There is no circuit board inside, just a greedy power source. And although they are "top-mounted"
there's no input jack—just five output jacks.

[Chankgeez]

Yeah, as I've said before, no political system is perfect, except in the view of my high school Western Civ. teacher. He thought a benevolent dictatorship'd be perfect.

I'd always say to him "Where are you gonna find a benevolent dictator?"

[Seance]

Yeah, as I've said before, no political system is perfect, except in the view of my high school Western Civ. teacher. He thought a benevolent dictatorship'd be perfect.

I'd always say to him "Where are you gonna find a benevolent dictator?"

Well Plato elected people like himself as Philosopher King. But... he didn't like poets,
which translated into today's world would mean no music with singers and lyrics.
Which would mean no fuzz pedals. So Plato can fuck right off.

[Chankgeez]

It works in theory?

[JonnyAngle]

I'm moderately hard right now.

now I am too