Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find out



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Re: Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find ou

Postby vidret » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:11 pm

PeterBregman wrote:I've got the simplifier. I think it's the best. It has my seal of awesome.


any comment on what's happening here?



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Re: Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find ou

Postby voerking » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:34 pm

the Joyo American Sound pedal is a very cheap & surprisingly good sounding option. i've recorded with it quite a bit.
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Postby DOSS BS-1 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:54 pm

Great post. Lots of options these days. I've been doing direct recording for a while. Previously I used most of the "in the box" programs - Native Instruments Guitar Rig, Positive Grid BIAS, Waves GTR, & IK Multimedia Amplitube are a few of the better ones. Even though they've come a LONG way in the last 10 years, most have the same two problems:

1) Sound quality is good but not totally realistic
2) LATENCY - makes it nearly impossible to nail the part without nudging the audio in post.

Then at the beginning of the pandemic Two Notes was giving away the their basic Torpedo software package. The sound quality was ON POINT but I still had to deal with latency.

I tried the direct out of my Quilter Reverb but it still didn't sound right, especially with a lot of dirt in front of it. I tried a few other cab sims (CabDryVR, Tech21, etc). They still didn't sound right, usually muddy. It wasn't until I picked up the Two Notes CAB that everything locked in. The sound, the features and the versatility are AMAZING. Total game changer. Over 100 amps in the box and they're all tweakable. Now I've got a realistic sound that I'm totally happy with that has no latency at all when recording.

I use the Effectrode Blackbird as my main preamp but you can go straight into the Two Notes and you'll be fine.

**I haven't tried the Strymon Iridium or that new Walrus. Both look great and I'm sure they'll do the job well. Both companies have stellar reputations. But they're considerably more expensive and I think the the Walrus only has a few amp/cab options, but maybe you don't need a lot of options? It's also the smallest of the bunch if space is a major concern for you. I also haven't tried the Terror Stamp but I saw a demo that sounded great so if the "Orange tone" is your thing maybe look into it a bit more.

Of course in the end all that matters is the getting the tones that YOU want in a fast, convenient way.
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Re: Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find ou

Postby MechaGodzilla » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:16 pm

voerking wrote:the Joyo American Sound pedal is a very cheap & surprisingly good sounding option. i've recorded with it quite a bit.

yeah tbh if it had a headphone out i would probably play 50% more guitar lol
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Re: Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find ou

Postby vidret » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:26 pm

DOSS BS-1 wrote:
I use the Effectrode Blackbird as my main preamp but you can go straight into the Two Notes and you'll be fine.


How does it sound if you'd just go distortion or fuzz straight in?

DOSS BS-1 wrote:Of course in the end all that matters is the getting the tones that YOU want in a fast, convenient way.


ofc, I agree. It would be nice to know which ones out there work well with the more extreme dirt pedals that can also give that direct in/headphone thing in a package.
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Postby gila_crisis » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:41 am

I use since year an AMT SS20 valve preamp!
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Re: Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find ou

Postby CSCD » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:22 am

I've been using the Shift Line Olympic MkIIIS (the bass version of the Twin) for over a year now on bass, guitar and synths, and it's been working like a charm. It takes dirt pedals very well and also has some gain of its own. Haven't tried the other options mentioned but can recommend this one.
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Postby Dowi » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:19 am

Good to know, Shift Line would have been my first choice but never got the chance to speak with somebody who actually had it. I know with bass is a different thing, but the overall structure of the pedal is the same. How's it speaking of headroom and compression when pushed with loud signals?
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Postby oldangelmidnight » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:06 am

You're just going to have to buy them all and tell us which one wins.
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Re: Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find ou

Postby CSCD » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:50 am

Dowi wrote:Good to know, Shift Line would have been my first choice but never got the chance to speak with somebody who actually had it. I know with bass is a different thing, but the overall structure of the pedal is the same. How's it speaking of headroom and compression when pushed with loud signals?


There seems to be more than enough headroom (for my purposes at least). I'm no expert when it comes to all this, but I've been running a bunch of fuzz into it and it doesn't turn into a mess — so it's a win in my book :?:
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Re: Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find ou

Postby MaxMaps » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:50 am

vidret wrote:
MaxMaps wrote:I have been using the Darkglass element

https://www.darkglass.com/creations/element/

It checks all the boxes with the execption that its only a cab sim at the moment but they did add some basic head sim adjustments you can fuck with as well


I've looked at this before, even though it doesn't say it's an amp/pre-amp sim you consider it good enough when running dirt pedals straight into it?


My whole set up essentially runs through the element so yes I do consider it good enough to run dirt and pedals into it. I still have some free days left on my reaper copy so I will try and post of clips of what I am hearing through the element.
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Postby coldbrightsunlight » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:24 am

Reaper doesn't actually kick you off after the free trial FYI you just have an annoying "please pay us" screen while opening. Obviously paying for stuff is nice if you keep using it, but don't feel in a rush like it'll disappear lol.
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Re: Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find ou

Postby MaxMaps » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:38 pm

coldbrightsunlight wrote:Reaper doesn't actually kick you off after the free trial FYI you just have an annoying "please pay us" screen while opening. Obviously paying for stuff is nice if you keep using it, but don't feel in a rush like it'll disappear lol.


Word - I am gonna try post some clips. The most recent update to the element gives you the ability to record directly into a DAW.
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Re: Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find ou

Postby mcatano » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:57 pm

For $0.00 I've yet to find anything that sounds half as good as the Kuassa Amplifikation Lite VST and the Wilkinson God's Cab IR pack. I've been doing a lot of at-home recording with that combo and it's been fantastic. The Kuassa VST has a built-in IR loader—the stock speaker sim is pretty meh and it's incredible the difference that the god's cab pack makes. I think it's based on a 5150; I use it as a pedal platform and get all of my dirt/effects from pedals.

This is maybe not super helpful for someone who's not sitting in front of a computer when they're writing/recording, but for me this has been a satisfying option that has quelled any GAS I previously had for the simplifier.
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Re: Amp+Cab in a peddle! who be win, who be lose, we find ou

Postby mcatano » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:02 pm

Oh, also, the amps and cabs in the zoom multi-stomps are totally not bad. I guess you'd need to figure out a headphone situation though.
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