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Lebowsky wrote: are there loopers where you can give a tempo first, and then record - I assume this would be more forgiving?
(I am amazed by people doing this live properly...)
It would be used in a bass + drums duo.
Lebowsky wrote:I am looking for a basic looper, that can allow me to record one riff, and then play over it. No need for much more... More features would be bonuses. But "rather small" footprint required.
manymanyhaha wrote:It's all easy until this part
Is the drummer really good at keeping an extremely steady pace? Like, are they basically a robot manifest surprisingly as a human? If not (and highly doubtful, right?), to do tempo first for a looper, you'd need a click track/metronome, either audible to your audience or to in-ears/headphones. That's how you most likely have seen it done live.
Otherwise, it's just practice practice practice and you will get the timing and as long as the drummer can hear the loop well over their own playing, they can play to it.
This just sounds like a basic Ditto or any other dedicated looper, to me. Again, with practice, the timing will come.
But if something happens and you do need to get into click tracks and quantizing, that's quite a bit more complicated in terms of the looper and monitoring.
Apologies if I've misunderstood the question.
manymanyhaha wrote:If you think you might want to go midi later then you should get one with 5-pin midi in and out.
I've used several of the Boss RC iterations, Ditto X4, Infinity 2, Jamman and I was able to sync a Boss Dr-880 drum machine to all of them with success. Haven't used the EHX loopers so can't comment but it doesn't look like the Nano 360 has midi.
I've been software looping since 2016 so all of my experience with hardware loopers is with older model stuff. But it all depends on how much space you have and what you click with. For what I like to do, if I were to go back to hardware loopers and if I had the space, I'd probably be trying the Loupe, the new Looperator, Blooper, and the Boomerang, just to test out and see. The Loupe especially looks like a lot of fun to me.
Dandolin wrote:Looperator's software only, right? pretty sure you didn't mean Looperboard - Looperlative 2?
Loupe looks fantastic, but availability may be the best ability in this space (not cheap either, but then none of the higher functionality players really are)
Folks also might want to check out the Beebo/Digit route as well - EDP Loopler is another attempt to bring Echoplex Digital Pro functionality to pedalworld, and since Loki, the developer, seems to have the ear of Andre LaFosse (and David Torn) it has a chance to develop into something really good. You'd need an external/midi footswitch as well to reach Loupe functionality tho Blooper is def cool - also need an external/midi to fully unlock it....
in another paradigm, user Shikawkee has mentioned his involvement in an effort [by HOSAT Effects?] to bring Lexicon PCM-42 functionality to a pedal format....
annnd...did i just latecomer recap a buncha stuff already laid out in this thread?
also, none'o'that is the simple, functional looper Lebowsky's after, for which i tend to think the EHX + practice will do...but maybe split the baby and look at the 720?
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