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"Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:03 pm
by Wittgenstein
Typically taken as a statement of Nietzsche's belief in the right of male dominance.
Notice who is holding the whip.
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:24 pm
by John
Booooring
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:37 pm
by Wittgenstein
John wrote:Booooring
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Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:58 pm
by Wittgenstein
Of course, it's still brutally sexist, even if it's woman who holds the whip.
In his "definition of love" he writes: "love--in its means, war; at bottom, the deadly hatred of the sexes." In this "state of nature," the "eternal war between the sexes" gives women "by far the first rank." But this is only so long as women do not involve themselves in politics.
"Emancipation of women"--that is the instinctive hatred of the abortive woman, who is incapable of giving birth, against the woman who is turned out well--the fight against the "man" is always a mere pretext, tactic. By raising themselves higher, as "woman in herself," as the "higher woman," as a female "idealist," they want to lower the level of the general rank of woman; and there is no surer means for that than higher education, slacks, and political voting-cattle rights. At bottom, the emancipated are anarchists in the world of the "eternally feminine," the underprivileged whose most fundamental instinct is revenge.
It's worth noting that Nietzsche was accused by Wagner of being a "compulsive masterbator."
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:28 pm
by snipelfritz
Ahh, Nietzsche, never before and never since has a man talked so much about men doing things without doing much himself.
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:51 pm
by oldangelmidnight
Hell of a moustache, though.
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:00 pm
by Chankgeez
You call that a "whip"?
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:21 pm
by JonnyAngle
I was hoping this was lyrics to the next E-40 song
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:31 pm
by Chankgeez
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:45 am
by comesect2.0
Yall read his book the gay science?....it's a good one. Crazy ol fred...
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:42 am
by Wittgenstein
So much yes:
Let us consider finally what naivety it is to say 'man ought to be thus and thus!' Reality shows us an enchanting wealth of types, the luxuriance of a prodigal play and change of forms: and does some pitiful journeyman moralist say at the sight of it: 'No! man ought to be different'? ... He even knows how man ought to be, this bigoted wretch, he paints himself on the wall and says 'ecce homo'!
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:08 am
by D.o.S.
Nietzsche's a BYOW kind of guy.
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:53 pm
by Disarm D'arcy
Bring you own whip that is. Who isn't tired of whip freeriders?
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:55 pm
by Lurker13
Disarm D'arcy wrote:Bring you own whip that is. Who isn't tired of whip freeriders?
Doesn't the French government issue everybody a free whip? If not, you should demand them as a human right. I would.
Re: "Thou goest to woman? Do not forget thy whip!"
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:22 pm
by Disarm D'arcy
There is a revenue condition now. Budget cuts will be a bitch. Even with whips.
