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Didn't see any threads on this yes (if I did my bad, stab me) and wondering what people are thinking about it.

It's amazing how quickly the general public will condemn and vilify someone based off a single accusation/how vehemently the oppositions supporters will abhor the accuser/potential victim.

Some lankz:

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2 ... mm_ac.html

http://pitchfork.com/news/63780-swans-m ... erous-lie/

sylnau's not gonna be happy about this.

Gira's wife posted on FB that she has proof that this is not true.
Let's see what will happen.

First thought:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJXtHMBFWmI[/youtube]

nobody rapes them like a cop with a club.

I read "Gira" as "Cera". That would have been way better.

lost in music wrote:nobody rapes them like a cop with a club.

QFT

It seems highly unlikely that Gira, a witness to rape in Israeli jail, would rape anyone. His psyche is a fucked up, dark place but I have hard time believing he could do such a sociopathic thing

I just hope it's not true. But if it is... It makes me think that when it comes to media presence and news about musicians, sometimes the best thing they can do is to die or burn out and disappear

DarkAxel wrote:

lost in music wrote:nobody rapes them like a cop with a club.

QFT

It seems highly unlikely that Gira, a witness to rape in Israeli jail, would rape anyone. His psyche is a fucked up, dark place but I have hard time believing he could do such a sociopathic thing

This is totally you projecting bb. I don't really want it to be true, but we don't know him at all, and we don't know him well enough to comment on the likelihood.

D.o.S. wrote:

DarkAxel wrote:

lost in music wrote:nobody rapes them like a cop with a club.

QFT

It seems highly unlikely that Gira, a witness to rape in Israeli jail, would rape anyone. His psyche is a fucked up, dark place but I have hard time believing he could do such a sociopathic thing

This is totally you projecting bb. I don't really want it to be true, but we don't know him at all, and we don't know him well enough to comment on the likelihood.

right. wishful thinking and all. psyche thing... just judging by all his music and lyrics I've heard, but you're right

Also rape charges or no rape charges Gira has the greatest disdainful delivery (in conversation) of anyone alive today.

ughughughughhhhhhhh

ah fuck i hope this isn't true due to my appreciation of his music, however not knowing him personally obviously you can't really comment on these sort of things.

all i know is that Swans played one of the best gigs i've ever been too.

How possible is it to separate music from the person that creates it?

Very.

SecretMachine wrote:How possible is it to separate music from the person that creates it?

It's possible. it honestly depends on the individual. I can listen to murders, rapists, women beaters, and arsonists without any judgement on the music. That's me, it's totally different for anyone else and a lot of people can't seen to understand that.