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Brandsmannen wrote:Yeah, I guess. The fundamental problem in this instance is that it's a hate crime. He was apparently of the really racist anti-immigrant movement in Sweden and he attacked a school where the majority of the kids were kids born by immigrants. Meanwhile, a scary number of refugee accommodations has been burned down the past few weeks. This entire movement of neo-nazis has gone from being obscure anonymous internet dudes to going out on public demonstrations, expressing themselves in media and, most importantly, actually going out and attacking people. It's fucking scary

goroth wrote:Jesus.

Fuck him.
Fuck all the racist fucks.

I swear I am getting more misanthropic by the day.

D.o.S. wrote:

Brandsmannen wrote:Yeah, I guess. The fundamental problem in this instance is that it's a hate crime. He was apparently of the really racist anti-immigrant movement in Sweden and he attacked a school where the majority of the kids were kids born by immigrants. Meanwhile, a scary number of refugee accommodations has been burned down the past few weeks. This entire movement of neo-nazis has gone from being obscure anonymous internet dudes to going out on public demonstrations, expressing themselves in media and, most importantly, actually going out and attacking people. It's fucking scary

Yeah that's pretty fucked up. I knew that a lot of the "recent" immigration/emigration/migration wasn't sitting well with some elements in greater Western Europe and the CIS but I sort of assumed that your neonazis were fringe and largely powerless/wusses like ours.

goroth wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

Brandsmannen wrote:Yeah, I guess. The fundamental problem in this instance is that it's a hate crime. He was apparently of the really racist anti-immigrant movement in Sweden and he attacked a school where the majority of the kids were kids born by immigrants. Meanwhile, a scary number of refugee accommodations has been burned down the past few weeks. This entire movement of neo-nazis has gone from being obscure anonymous internet dudes to going out on public demonstrations, expressing themselves in media and, most importantly, actually going out and attacking people. It's fucking scary

Yeah that's pretty fucked up. I knew that a lot of the "recent" immigration/emigration/migration wasn't sitting well with some elements in greater Western Europe and the CIS but I sort of assumed that your neonazis were fringe and largely powerless/wusses like ours.

I think the actual neo-fascist movement in Sweden is highly marginalised, though somewhat better organised than the impression I get of your dudes. So that is not so much a factor here - feel free to disagree Brandsmannen (or any of the other Swedes on the board). But our far right flirts far more with those groups than your far right would.

Third biggest party here is the Swedish Democrats, who are a joke of a party, with no ideological consistency what so ever, so they are a little difficult to pin down, but they are socially conservative, extremely anti immigration, nostalgic (they still believe "folkhemmet" is a possibility), anti-intellectual, somewhat anti-establishment. National romantics. Disparate. Hopeless politicians. And yet relentlessly popular.

Which is frightening.

They differ from the teaparty in that religion is not really a big deal for them, and also that they clothe their policies such that folk with extreme views - neo-fascists and the like - don't have to read too hard between the lines to find a lot to like in most of their policies, and yet they word it in such a way that Anders Andersson, slightly miffed and slightly marginalised lower middle class ethnic Swede looking down the barrel of downward social mobility can vote for them without reflecting in the slightest over any sympathies with the right. Which if I've understood the Tea Party correctly isn't something they really do - at least not on a federal level. But my knowledge of right wing politics in the States is limited to whatever Time Magazine tells me is true so...

Another example of institutional racism in Sweden: A few weeks back a random dude went to the kitchen section of Ikea, grabbed a knife and stabbed the shit out of some people. Every single report ran the headline that he was an immigrant and talked about his background, and the problems associated with immigration. All of the white power dudes got their knickers in a knot.

But this guy - no-one mentions "boring fucking white Swedish guy" as being the cause of his violence.

God damnit this whole thing makes me