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Blind Solder Joint Testing

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:04 pm
by hbombgraphics
Anyone ever make anything using blind solder joints?
We are putting layers of copper plates together using resistance soldering,
Our joints are good but I need a repeatable test
Resistance does not give a good indication because of how the plates go together (nomex insulated btw)

Know of a good test other than x-ray?

Let me know, work related.

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Re: Blind Solder Joint Testing

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:54 pm
by Schlatte
Depending on the size of your joints/copper plates I would suggest a frequency dependent measurement system maybe? If your plates are nomex isolated against each other a simple capacitive measurement could do maybe? Depends on the size of the copper you want to measure. so utilizing the parasitic effects of your copper/solder joints (capacitance and inductance) you could either apply white noise and measure the spectrum to see resonance frequencies and therefore make assumptions about the quality of your joints. But as I said, depends on the size of your plates... :idk:

Re: Blind Solder Joint Testing

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:17 pm
by hbombgraphics
they are 2 inch by 4 inch soldered together in stacks with nomex separating each stack, they will pass resistance with a bad joint so that isn't working

Re: Blind Solder Joint Testing

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:30 pm
by Schlatte
ohhh ok, now I get it. So the single plates are not insulated, but the stacks are. Well, that basically makes every electrical form of measurement unusable (except maybe some übercomplicated high frequency/runtime measurement stuff, but that's basically out of the question here too...). Therefore you can use optical inspection, as you already mentioned - x rays (although I'm not sure how the copper/solder you use behaves under radiation). I can currently not think of anything better. But if I have an idea, I'll report back.

Re: Blind Solder Joint Testing

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:49 pm
by hbombgraphics
no the single plates are insulated
it goes plate nomex plate
they create a coil of sorts
put into packets then the packets get soldered together

Re: Blind Solder Joint Testing

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:17 pm
by Chankgeez
sounds industrial

Re: Blind Solder Joint Testing

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:20 pm
by hbombgraphics
Chankgeez wrote:sounds industrial
oh it is!


also: Thermal Cycle seems to be working