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my mic is an audio technica at4050
it looks like this

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AT4050/




do i have to use the specific shockmount for that mic?

we're looking at a difference between $80 for one of their at8441/at8449 shockmounts... or $15 for a nady one from musicians friend that looks like this

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/micropho ... hock-mount




sorry for noob thread

sidequestion-


one sm57 pointed parallel to speaker cone (30degrees ish)

another one a few feet back pointed sorta at center cone

flip the phase on one of them? or are they unusable together no matter what?

That one you linked to "should" work. That design is pretty good in that it opens pretty wide and closes down really tight. If you are nervous about it, maybe bring your mic into Guitar Center to check it out? Unless your mic is unusually narrow, it should fit snug. Instert twss comment…

I'm not super awesome with phase. I kind of stick with the idea if they are both pointing the same way, and not too much distance [and I can't hear anything] I call it good. Place them and listen. I find that that close mic is the more important one. Move it around and see where it sounds the best.

Regarding phase, there a few things you can do:

1.Put the mic's where ever you want, flip the phase of each mic and see if you hear a difference. Keep the phase setting on whichever option sounds "fuller". This is not the best option and is really just a lot of trial and error...

2.Adhere to the 3:1 rule. This basically means that whatever the distance mic #1 is from the sound source, mic #2 should be three times that distance from the mic source. This will get you close to aligned phase and then you can tweak the mic position to taste from there.

You can use whichever option you want. It wont "hurt" anything to have the signals out of phase, but it will effect the fullness of the signal being recorded.

oh man, 3:1 is gonna be a huge help..thanks both of u

Glad to be of help. Literally use a yard stick or ruler and you will be happy.

and check what the 2 (or more) mics sound like in mono. It should sound just as good or better. Phase issues will make it seem less substantial in mono.

Do you "need" a shockmount anyway? I've got a couple of the AT ones and while they're sturdy, functionally they're just ok. Won't hold the mic upside down for example.

sears wrote:and check what the 2 (or more) mics sound like in mono. It should sound just as good or better. Phase issues will make it seem less substantial in mono.

Do you "need" a shockmount anyway? I've got a couple of the AT ones and while they're sturdy, functionally they're just ok. Won't hold the mic upside down for example.

i can hang my at 4050 upside down off of this Mudguard thing i've assemebled, with a mic stand base and a couple boom arms.
thats probably what im going to do. i just called the local gc and they are idiots.

that will work fine for guitars..when i need to record vocals im gonna need a shockmount for sure

edit- lots of ppl using the nady $15 shockmount for the at2020, only a 0.05" difference in diameter between the 2020 and my at4050
so looks like the cheap nady one should be fine BOOYAH

Microphone Company shock mounts are specific to a certain models of their mics, there are generic shock mounts of vary quality as well. I would not buy the shitty Nady one.