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Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:40 pm
by Ugly Nora
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Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:44 pm
by Deltaphoenix
Get on making that Gamelan Drone please, that is a nice idea.

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:47 pm
by Chankgeez
I am the progenitor of Droney Psychedelic Disco®.

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:48 pm
by AxAxSxS
I think consciously trying to create a new genre is an exercise in futility. Many of the bands who are credited with creating something new were not conscious they were doing it.
Black Sabbath is a great example. they thought they were just playing blues.
I think if you concentrate on playing GOOD music, and music that brings you happiness and fulfillment, you might get lucky and have it evolve into something that later people consider to be the starting point of a new thing.

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:49 pm
by Deltaphoenix
I mean on the reals, I make PostGarageHipHopMetalFunkDeathTronica

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:54 pm
by bigchiefbc
I think that creating a "new" style of music is pretty much futile. But that doesn't mean that new combinations can't be novel. My band has largely become a combination of industrial tones and IDM-ish beats. Not exactly ground-breaking, but rare enough that it's hard to find existing bands that combine those two elements.

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:07 pm
by Chankgeez
AxAxSxS wrote:I think consciously trying to create a new genre is an exercise in futility. Many of the bands who are credited with creating something new were not conscious they were doing it.
Black Sabbath is a great example. they thought they were just playing blues.
I think if you concentrate on playing GOOD music, and music that brings you happiness and fulfillment, you might get lucky and have it evolve into something that later people consider to be the starting point of a new thing.
Chankgeez wrote:I am the progenitor of Droney Psychedelic Disco®.
bigchiefbc wrote:I think that creating a "new" style of music is pretty much futile. But that doesn't mean that new combinations can't be novel. My band has largely become a combination of industrial tones and IDM-ish beats. Not exactly ground-breaking, but rare enough that it's hard to find existing bands that combine those two elements.
Chankgeez wrote:I am the progenitor of Droney Psychedelic Disco®.

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:16 pm
by scienceman
All my band plays is disco poetry. We invented it three years ago and no one has heard of it yet. :)

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:19 pm
by Ugly Nora
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Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:21 pm
by D.o.S.
Usually, part of making music that doesn't suck kind of entails not sounding exactly like someone else.

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:22 pm
by Bassus Sanguinis
pardon me if I sound like tripping Robert Fripp BUT :wizard: what if it isn't a matter of inventing new music as much as music being found in forms it just wasn't heard yet as music? Think of 20th Century classical music transition, think of the coming of Modernism. :idea:

Just remember what kind of an bewilderment or even outrage Stravinsky and Debussy were met with when their most notable works were first publicly performed. Now these are all understood as high art, even beautiful music. The compositions just had to be found, though all the possibilities always were there - all the notes, the chord progressions, the scales, and tonal colors. It wasn't just understood as music. Hell, to many the intonarumori of Russolo isn't even today! Nor is Sunn o))) or so many other marginal acts and composers when You ask the large majority of people.

New music is simply born. With or without conscent. To smaller or larger awareness of its existence. :idk: Of course You can try to have a baby with a lady but it still doesn't necessarily follow from coitus that anything much is conceived.

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:09 pm
by Blackened Soul
I find the idea of "creating new styles" as silly. Most "new" styles aren't that new other then the name and a small difference from what came before it. Drone is not a good example at all because drone based music has been around since humans started making music, it is very primal stuff, and even drone metalz like Sunn O))) seems newish but then The Melvins did it in the 80s/90s. You do whatever you do, if it is different enough from all the other music that everyone else is doing/has done then then maybe it is new and worth a new name but even so the music should be more important then whatever the fuck you call it or liken it to.

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:21 pm
by rfurtkamp
There's a ton of world music instruments in noise/drone stuff - just look in the banks of any synth made in the last 20 years, and somebody has used it.

That said, just make what makes you happy.

Who cases about the rest?

Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:47 pm
by Ugly Nora
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Re: Creating new styles of music

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:51 pm
by backwardsvoyager
AxAxSxS wrote:I think consciously trying to create a new genre is an exercise in futility. Many of the bands who are credited with creating something new were not conscious they were doing it.
Black Sabbath is a great example. they thought they were just playing blues.
I think if you concentrate on playing GOOD music, and music that brings you happiness and fulfillment, you might get lucky and have it evolve into something that later people consider to be the starting point of a new thing.
This.

I can't really think of any new styles I'd like to be created. There's enough crazy awesome new stuff today that I haven't quite wrapped my head around yet.