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bass vi vs baritone geetz... talk to me...

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:03 pm
by magiclawnchair
so, its my understanding that a bass vi is a 30" scale that is normally tuned e-e in the bass guitar register and a baritone guitar is around 27.5" scale that is normally tuned from b-b in between the guitar and bass register. the bass vi can handle being down-tuned more with the 30" scale over the baritone. this is correct?

i do have an agile baritone and i enjoy the tones but have been very curious to the 30" scale. i am thinking about a custom egc and not really sure which scale i want to go with. are there more sting options for baritone vs the bass vi? i suppose there arent much in flatwound options for either...

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Re: bass vi vs baritone geetz... talk to me...

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:10 pm
by Bon Hoga
Your understanding is correct. Also, with appropriate strings you can use a Bass VI as a baritone (tuned A-A). I wouldn't say that scoring baritone strings is any easier than scoring BVI ones, the market is terrible at the moment. I'd kill for a readily available 15-80 set. If you're going with an EGC get one of those 32"-scale thingies, you can use bass strings on it and have proper tension.

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:35 pm
by Achtane
Easy.
The lower it goes, the better.

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:37 pm
by skullservant
All about tension my man! If you like a lot of tension I'd say go longer (TWSS), but if you like a little bit of slack when you bend strings go shorter. Also depends on your tuning!

I honestly didn't really feel comfortable with .14's on a 28" baritone, it just felt like it was going to snap. But at the same time that bigger scale seemed to NEED that big a gauge

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:45 pm
by Disarm D'arcy
Flag.

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:56 pm
by aen
Actually, LaBella makes a whole bunch of string sets for VI type instruments, including flats. I'll bring my Ultra VI when I come.

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:00 pm
by Achtane
Wait wait wait...there are VI flatwounds?
uuunnnnfffffff gotta get some...

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:00 pm
by kosta
The Jaguar Bottom Master is 28.5" scale and is tuned E-e like a Bass VI. The strings are little bit floppy, but not too bad (I'm not sure which gauge strings are on it at the moment as I haven't changed them since I got it and don't play it all that much.)

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:10 pm
by Bon Hoga
aen wrote:Actually, LaBella makes a whole bunch of string sets for VI type instruments, including flats. I'll bring my Ultra VI when I come.


They make strings for the Hellcat and Ultra, which cost about $7 and are too short for the BVI. Their Bass VI string are stupidly expensive.

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:18 pm
by Holy Schnikes
I have a Custom Shop Bass VI incoming and I'm a little concerned about strings. Hard enough finding a nice set for a 32" bass, I imagine a 30" scale is that much more limited, total pain in the ass.

I did notice a D'addario XL Bass VI set for $10.50 tho, not too shabby, but they're only 24-84. Meh.

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:40 pm
by Bon Hoga
Holy Schnikes wrote:
I did notice a D'addario XL Bass VI set for $10.50 tho, not too shabby, but they're only 24-84. Meh.


Just buy a single .95 bass string to replace the .84.The only difference between D'Addario singles for bass and guitar is the ball end.

Re: bass vi vs baritone geetz... talk to me...

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:47 pm
by Holy Schnikes
Yeah, that's a good idea!

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:33 pm
by aen
kosta wrote:The Jaguar Bottom Master is 28.5" scale and is tuned E-e like a Bass VI.


Good luck finding one.

Re: bass vi vs baritone geetz... talk to me...

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:55 pm
by THEBEERHAMMER
Holy Schnikes wrote:I have a Custom Shop Bass VI incoming and I'm a little concerned about strings. Hard enough finding a nice set for a 32" bass, I imagine a 30" scale is that much more limited, total pain in the ass.

I did notice a D'addario XL Bass VI set for $10.50 tho, not too shabby, but they're only 24-84. Meh.


YOU SHOULD JUST SELL TO ME AT A REASONABLE PRICE. YOU DONT WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT HASSLE.

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And yeah the la bella strangs are like $50

Re: bass vi vs baritone geetz... talk to me...

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:06 pm
by theavondon
Yeah, go with a Bass VI. Also, yeah....about strings...I have no fucking clue what to do. I'm thinking just buy bari strings and a bass A. I dig the 80-20 that's on my Agile VI. But my friend Mercy who only plays Bass VI uses the LaBella flats.