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So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:23 am
by madmax1012
Legalizing marijuana for recreational use? sure why not! :snax:

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:25 am
by dubkitty
given the Obama administration's war on medical marijuana, they'll probably occupy CO and WA with Federal troops.

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:26 am
by Achtane
drag america kicking and screaming into the 21st century

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:28 am
by Joe Gress
Achtane wrote:drag america kicking and screaming into the 21st century

Yup, pretty much.


But still, about goddamn time. Party at my house.

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:30 am
by Mudfuzz
madmax1012 wrote:Legalizing marijuana for recreational use? sure why not! :snax:

:idk: I'm actually on the fence still even though I did vote for it... On one hand I think it being illegal is silly and a waste of tax money to fight.. on the other hand I feel it might in some way might undercut the medical angle... :idk: I don't do drugs and rarely drink so it doesn't have much effect on my life... but I have a LOT of friends that... well...

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:32 am
by madmax1012
I don't smoke nearly as much as I used to. maybe once a year? But it'll be interesting to see how this plays out in tax dollars. Are all the stoners right in saying it's gonna fix the economy, or is it gonna fail miserably? I personally only used it medically, because I'd rather smoke a bowl than take a xanax.

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:34 am
by Mudfuzz
madmax1012 wrote:I don't smoke nearly as much as I used to. maybe once a year? But it'll be interesting to see how this plays out in tax dollars. Are all the stoners right in saying it's gonna fix the economy, or is it gonna fail miserably? I personally only used it medically, because I'd rather smoke a bowl than take a xanax.

We are too far down the hole for that kind of tax to be vapor let alone a drop. :idk:

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:40 am
by dubkitty
madmax1012 wrote:I don't smoke nearly as much as I used to. maybe once a year? But it'll be interesting to see how this plays out in tax dollars. Are all the stoners right in saying it's gonna fix the economy, or is it gonna fail miserably?


the amount of taxes they'll collect from marijuana is de minimis compared to the massive state deficits and obligations for, e.g., bloated public employee pensions. the "fix the economy" jive is just a variation on the "wonders of hemp, the miracle plant" BS the marijuana lobby has been pushing for years.

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:43 am
by D.o.S.
Load bongs, not guns.

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:12 am
by snipelfritz
I despise the medicinal system as it is and am totally for recreational legalization.

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:58 am
by shred
snipelfritz wrote:I despise the medicinal system as it is and am totally for recreational legalization.


+1

dubkitty wrote:the amount of taxes they'll collect from marijuana is de minimis compared to the massive state deficits and obligations for, e.g., bloated public employee pensions. the "fix the economy" jive is just a variation on the "wonders of hemp, the miracle plant" BS the marijuana lobby has been pushing for years.


I think you're underestimating it a bit. If, somehow, marijuana was sold and distributed in a similar model to alcohol sales currently, there would be a significant amount of tax revenue coming in. As it is I don't see that type of system developing anyway, let alone these measures surpassing any federal suppression. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
But I agree with you that compared to other parts of the dysfunctional system, the "miracle plant" is not going to fix all of the problems.
All that said, it's about fucking time. :yay:

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:09 am
by Psyre
Well Marijuana is no longer cool, time for heroin.

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:32 am
by Casavettes
shred wrote:
snipelfritz wrote:I despise the medicinal system as it is and am totally for recreational legalization.


+1

dubkitty wrote:the amount of taxes they'll collect from marijuana is de minimis compared to the massive state deficits and obligations for, e.g., bloated public employee pensions. the "fix the economy" jive is just a variation on the "wonders of hemp, the miracle plant" BS the marijuana lobby has been pushing for years.


I think you're underestimating it a bit. If, somehow, marijuana was sold and distributed in a similar model to alcohol sales currently, there would be a significant amount of tax revenue coming in. As it is I don't see that type of system developing anyway, let alone these measures surpassing any federal suppression. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
But I agree with you that compared to other parts of the dysfunctional system, the "miracle plant" is not going to fix all of the problems.
All that said, it's about fucking time. :yay:


Wouldn't it save some money too by not shoving people in jail over weed?
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Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:10 pm
by the Life Aquatic
But if marijuana is still illegal on a federal level, how does legalizing weed on a state level in Colorado change anything? Do state and local police just ignore recreational users? Also the tax revenue, is this coming from sales of marijuana distributed by the state? Will marijuana growing and distrusting be state run or privatized and heavily regulated?

Re: So...Colorado and Washington, huh?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:13 pm
by Greenfuz
Psyre wrote:Well Marijuana is no longer cool, time for heroin.