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The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:53 am
by morange
Creationists base their refusal to accept evolution on the Bible. Genesis is weak on detail about how God did everything. Somehow this is taken to mean that everything done was inexplicable magic.

Everyone is descended from Adam and Eve, and more recently, Noah and his family. Look at the diversity of humanity now. I mean, we're not speciated, but we look different. That's proof of evolution, from a biblical viewpoint.

I know this is the wrong crowd for this, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:09 am
by unownunown
i like creationists who feel like that but i mean creation myths are the like most important part of anthropology anyway.

MERGING SCIENCE AND MYSTICISM IS THE FUTURE. or something like that.

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:18 am
by devnulljp
Ah, but BANANAS!
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Take that!

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:23 am
by IEatCats
morange wrote:Creationists base their refusal to accept evolution on the Bible. Genesis is weak on detail about how God did everything. Somehow this is taken to mean that everything done was inexplicable magic.

Everyone is descended from Adam and Eve, and more recently, Noah and his family. Look at the diversity of humanity now. I mean, we're not speciated, but we look different. That's proof of evolution, from a biblical viewpoint.

I know this is the wrong crowd for this, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.


If Adam and Eve were the first two humans, explain Lilith, Adam's first wife.

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:35 am
by Mudfuzz
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMe8u1yE9VQ[/youtube]

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:56 am
by Achtane
IEatCats wrote:
morange wrote:Creationists base their refusal to accept evolution on the Bible. Genesis is weak on detail about how God did everything. Somehow this is taken to mean that everything done was inexplicable magic.

Everyone is descended from Adam and Eve, and more recently, Noah and his family. Look at the diversity of humanity now. I mean, we're not speciated, but we look different. That's proof of evolution, from a biblical viewpoint.

I know this is the wrong crowd for this, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.


If Adam and Eve were the first two humans, explain Lilith, Adam's first wife.


You must have missed the movie or something; I'm pretty sure Rei is Lilith.

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:20 am
by Derelict78
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith
Lilith is pretty interesting

"For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday"
when it is past, and as a watch in the night."
"... that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years,
and a thousand years as one day."
Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8

"yowm" a hebrew word for Day can be used as a literal day, or as a figurative day for a period of time to be defined by associated words.


yowm
Noun Masculine
Definition
day, time, year
day (as opposed to night)
day (24 hour period)
as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1
as a division of time 1b
a working day, a day's journey
days, lifetime (pl.)
time, period (general)
year
temporal references
today
yesterday
tomorrow

Anyone who thinks "God" created the everything in a 24 hour day is delusional.

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:28 am
by Haki
Achtane wrote:
IEatCats wrote:
morange wrote:Creationists base their refusal to accept evolution on the Bible. Genesis is weak on detail about how God did everything. Somehow this is taken to mean that everything done was inexplicable magic.

Everyone is descended from Adam and Eve, and more recently, Noah and his family. Look at the diversity of humanity now. I mean, we're not speciated, but we look different. That's proof of evolution, from a biblical viewpoint.

I know this is the wrong crowd for this, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.


If Adam and Eve were the first two humans, explain Lilith, Adam's first wife.


You must have missed the movie or something; I'm pretty sure Rei is Lilith.


Isn't Rei a clone of Yui with Lililth being (mistaken for Adam) in Central Dogma impaled by the Lance of Longinus?

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:32 am
by DarkAxel
No more Scopes Monkey Trial for me, thanks

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:35 am
by Mudfuzz
Haki wrote:
Achtane wrote:
IEatCats wrote:
morange wrote:Creationists base their refusal to accept evolution on the Bible. Genesis is weak on detail about how God did everything. Somehow this is taken to mean that everything done was inexplicable magic.

Everyone is descended from Adam and Eve, and more recently, Noah and his family. Look at the diversity of humanity now. I mean, we're not speciated, but we look different. That's proof of evolution, from a biblical viewpoint.

I know this is the wrong crowd for this, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.


If Adam and Eve were the first two humans, explain Lilith, Adam's first wife.


You must have missed the movie or something; I'm pretty sure Rei is Lilith.


Isn't Rei a clone of Yui with Lililth being (mistaken for Adam) in Central Dogma impaled by the Lance of Longinus?

Rei Ayanami Origin

Rei's true origins are revealed in their majority through Episodes 21 and 23. Rei Ayanami is a clone of Yui Ikari. On some level, she may also incorporate DNA from the Second Angel, Lilith, seeing as she is the vessel for Lilith's soul. Rei Ayanami was created sometime between the year 2004, and 2008, as suggested by her appearance in Episode 21. At this stage, she is a child capable of walking unaided, apparently around four years old in 2010. She is later seen in 2015 apparently aged 14. This would suggest that on some level, Commander Ikari has the ability to manipulate her growth. In Terminal Dogma, a large tank of spare Rei clones are maintained. These are referred to by Ritsuko Akagi as being 'Spare Parts' for the Dummy Plug system. The Dummy System in Eva-01 also shows the name REI on it's side when it is activated during Episode 18. These clones are the origin of Rei's "If I die, I can be replaced" statement from Episode 19.
Rei's birthplace in Central Dogma is also shown in Episode 23. It is noted by Shinji Ikari as being remarkably similar to Rei's apartment. On the concrete walls, different states of quantum particle spin and different quark names are painted. (Up, Down, Strange, Charmed, Top, Bottom- Up and Down quarks form normal matter, the other four are much rarer and have been generated only in particle accelerators so far). It is likely that this is where Rei spent the majority of her early years.
Rei's reason for creation was as a controllable link between Gendo Ikari, and Lilith. It appears to have been his intention to use Rei to control Human Instrumentality Project, and allow him to see Yui again in the End of Evangelion. The reason why the DNA of Yui Ikari was used is not explicitly stated. It may be due to Commander Ikari's desire to be with his wife once more, in whatever way possible.
In Episode 24, Shinji Ikari is able to make the link between Rei Ayanami and his own mother, wondering what Commander Ikari has planned for them. He also states in Episode 15 that Rei's hands while washing remind him of a mother's while she is washing the classroom floor.
Incarnations

Through the run of the series, Rei Ayanami died at least twice. On these occasions, she was apparently resurrected through the use of the Dummy Plug system and the tank of cloned bodies. This is not without flaws, as is seen in Episode 23 when after her death fighting the Sixteenth Angel, Rei is apparently able to recognize that she is her own third incarnation. Her new incarnation differs from the preceding one (See below).
Rei 1
Rei one was first Introduced in Episode 21. She is show as a small child wearing a simple red dress. She is later murdered by Naoko Akagi, for revealing that Gendo Ikari referred to her as an 'old hag' behind her back. Rei 1 is also shown alongside her two 'sisters' and Yui Ikari during Commander Ikari's final scene in End of Evangelion.
Rei 2
Rei 2 was the incarnation of Rei for the majority of the series, until Episode 23. This Rei is shown to have a strong attachment to Gendo Ikari, and a building attachment to Shinji Ikari. It is likely that Rei 2 was created sometime after the death of Rei 1. Given that this occurred in 2010, this would suggest that in reality, Rei 2 is approximately four years old, despite appearing to be fourteen years old. She is shown with her sisters in Episode 26' wearing the same bandages that she first wore after being injured in Eva-00's failed activation test.
Rei 3
The Third incarnation of Rei Ayanami is first seen in Episode 23, after the death of Rei 2. This incarnation of Rei shows little attachment to Gendo Ikari, attempting to break the glasses that Rei 2 had kept after being rescued by Gendo Ikari from Eva-00 after its berserker incident. This comes to a head, when Rei 3 decides to betray Gendo. In Gendo's final scene in Episode 26' Rei 3 is shown naked with her "sisters", Rei 1 and Rei 2.

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:40 am
by IEatCats
What?

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:37 am
by proroby
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R370YkYhV0w[/youtube]

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:26 am
by dubkitty
boy, could this forum ever use less politically correct trolling. is there any purpose whatsoever to this thread other than mocking people whose views differ from the typical modern-day collegiate consensus?

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:32 am
by Deltaphoenix
Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!

Re: The End of Creationism vs Evolution

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:06 am
by Gregor Samsa
Ah, but BANANAS!
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Take that!


BEHOLD THE ATHEISTS NIGHTMARE!

But on a more serious note, this experiment is quite interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbcwDXhugjw