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As Europe and US economies are balancing with the debt, we should also remember the debt to Nature, as we are consuming nearly twice what the Renewable resources of Earth has to offer.

Today is Earth Overshoot Day the day we have already used the Renewable resources available for whole year, so the rest of the year we're kinda living on credit.

It IS kinda scary, isn't it

I'm just waiting to see what all these hippie assholes have to say when we run out of sun and wind from their precious "renewables."

The sun is, clearly, a socialist. Giving warmth and light to everyone on the earth. And now it wants to provide electricity too? It's creating a nanny state of people depending on the sun, and it must be stopped.

And don't even get me started on that brownshirt "wind." Knocking over houses of anyone it doesn't agree with. >.>

McSpunckle wrote:I'm just waiting to see what all these hippie assholes have to say when we run out of sun and wind from their precious "renewables."

The sun is, clearly, a socialist. Giving warmth and light to everyone on the earth. And now it wants to provide electricity too? It's creating a nanny state of people depending on the sun, and it must be stopped.

And don't even get me started on that brownshirt "wind." Knocking over houses of anyone it doesn't agree with. >.>

McSpunckle wrote:I'm just waiting to see what all these hippie assholes have to say when we run out of sun and wind from their precious "renewables."

The sun is, clearly, a socialist. Giving warmth and light to everyone on the earth. And now it wants to provide electricity too? It's creating a nanny state of people depending on the sun, and it must be stopped.

And don't even get me started on that brownshirt "wind." Knocking over houses of anyone it doesn't agree with. >.>

Bassus Sanguinis wrote:It IS kinda scary, isn't it

Have no fear, Dubkitty will come along shortly and explain it all away.

Tornadoes are just unionized wind, and they're getting worse because their unions protect them.

FUCK THE WORLD MAN

i like McSpunkley. i like him a LOT.

and i always say Mmm Seee SPUNKLEEEE in my head. take THAT.

two key questions:

1. what's the "global deficit" *without* CO2, the effect of which is still under scientific debate and thus notional for measurement purposes?

2. does the food production capacity include modern farming on irrigable arable lands in e.g. Russia, Canada, Mongolia, China, California's Central Valley, etc., or are these dismissed as "non-sustainable?" it seems the latter, given their definition of "biocapacity, the ability of ecosystems to generate resources and sequester CO2." if they're talking about only nature's ability to generate without man's action versus the effect of man's action, the whole exercise is an apples/oranges comparison that's worthless. you can't create a realistic equation regarding human activity that includes only man's negative impacts.

and a third relevant one:

3. doesn't choosing a base year of 2005, after European nations were the only countries to give a crap about CO2 and after China and India had massively developed, give a biased baseline that unfairly advantages European nations in the discussion versus not only the US and large Asian states but also the smaller nations of the Third World?

which is not by any means to say that i oppose conservation of natural resources. i was recycling on Boy Scout paper drives before there was an Earth Day. i favor conservation of natural resources, of species, and of wilderness areas wherever reasonably possible. i just don't believe that CO2 is going to destroy the planet...normal temperature variations in e.g. the US Southwest or Greenland in recorded time have been much hotter than now; that's what drove out the Anasazi and allowed the Viking settlements respectively. and i don't care for figures with the kind of fudge factor implied in "calculated from 2005 results (the most recent year for which data are available), and on projections based on historical rates of growth in population and consumption. In addition, the historical links between world GDP and resource demand are used to account for the impact on consumption of the worldwide economic slowdown."

behndy wrote:i like McSpunkley. i like him a LOT.

and i always say Mmm Seee SPUNKLEEEE in my head. take THAT.

Oh yeah? Well I like you -more.- Totally gay for the Behndy.

And I'm -totally down with M.C. Spunckle. He's got the flow and the beats to make them panties drip, ya herd?

STOP!






Spunkle Time.

*swoons*

*titters*

*runs and hides from new, confusing feelings*

eeeeeeeeeeeee!

Hippie bullshit.

Let's let our bacchanalian tendencies go wild. The earth will be fine.

Our species might be fucked, but the earth will be fine.

D.o.S. wrote:Hippie bullshit.

Let's let our bacchanalian tendencies go wild. The earth will be fine.

Our species might be fucked, but the earth will be fine.

...

Just...

... what?

I mean...

"Our species might be fucked" is an acceptable outcome just because the Earth will replenish itself after?