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Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:24 pm
by elbandito
Seriously, what the hell made Mike Matthews think that it was a good idea to make all of the old school EH effects require different and wacky voltages? I lost the power supplies for both my Flanger Hoax and my MicroSynth and now I don't know what the eff I'm gonna do. I could buy the voodoo power supply but I don't have that kinda cash right now and dudely that was selling one on b/s/t a couple of days ago sold it locally while we were discussing a potential trade (damn you, money!!!).
I know the Hoax takes 18v... anybody know what the MicroSynth requires? Anybody want to buy these bastards offa me so I can get some regular ass 9v effects? It's next to impossible to find these adapters anywhere, it seems.
Hey, is it possible to wire the Hoax up with two 9v batteries, somehow?

Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:59 pm
by tuffteef
i agree it took me months to find a pog power supply
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:32 pm
by 1,2,3, Pull Out!
Try an electronics store like The Source, they've always got a ton of different power supplies with interchangeable ends and adjustable voltages, I'm sure you'll be able to find something that'll work.
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:36 pm
by McSpunckle
Dude, I know! At one point I had a Graphic Fuzz, Q Tron, 2880, and HOG all hooked up. So many power supplies. Blech.
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 2:18 am
by MannequinRaces
Even though the micro synth isn't listed on the list of compatible pedals on this page it says right on the micro synth page that this is the model number that it takes.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Electro-Har ... 1388388.gcI couldn't find one right off for your Flanger Hoax.

Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 2:26 am
by Scruffie
MannequinRaces wrote:Even though the micro synth isn't listed on the list of compatible pedals on this page it says right on the micro synth page that this is the model number that it takes.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Electro-Har ... 1388388.gcI couldn't find one right off for your Flanger Hoax.

9.6V DC 200mA Negative Ground, that means any old Pedal supply should be fine with it.
The Flanger Hoax is 18V DC, all the pedal requirements are listed on the ehx site under each unit.
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:44 am
by Bellyheart
What a scheme. I recently heard that cell phone companies are being required by FCC regulations to standardize their connectors and chargers...maybe guitar pedals as well??
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:05 am
by MannequinRaces
I don't know the engineering behind it all, but some pedals just need more juice and sound better because of it!
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:51 am
by stanimal
Hey el try analogman, he stocks all the different power supplies for EHX at reasonable prices.... I bought a power supply from him for a POG last year.... Still have it actually, would it work in any of your pedals..?
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:48 am
by bigchiefbc
Scruffie wrote:MannequinRaces wrote:Even though the micro synth isn't listed on the list of compatible pedals on this page it says right on the micro synth page that this is the model number that it takes.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Electro-Har ... 1388388.gcI couldn't find one right off for your Flanger Hoax.

9.6V DC 200mA Negative Ground, that means any old Pedal supply should be fine with it.
The Flanger Hoax is 18V DC, all the pedal requirements are listed on the ehx site under each unit.
If he's talking about the old sheet metal Micro Synth, then that's 24v DC, center positive.
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:00 pm
by elbandito
bigchiefbc wrote:Scruffie wrote:MannequinRaces wrote:Even though the micro synth isn't listed on the list of compatible pedals on this page it says right on the micro synth page that this is the model number that it takes.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Electro-Har ... 1388388.gcI couldn't find one right off for your Flanger Hoax.

9.6V DC 200mA Negative Ground, that means any old Pedal supply should be fine with it.
The Flanger Hoax is 18V DC, all the pedal requirements are listed on the ehx site under each unit.
If he's talking about the old sheet metal Micro Synth, then that's 24v DC, center positive.
Yes, it's the old school ones, as I said in my first post. All require wall warts and all are of different voltages. Thanks, BigChief.
stanimal wrote:Hey el try analogman, he stocks all the different power supplies for EHX at reasonable prices.... I bought a power supply from him for a POG last year.... Still have it actually, would it work in any of your pedals..?
Analogman! I totally forgot about that guy. I'll check it out right now.
Whats the voltage on that supply?
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:17 pm
by multi_s
elbandito wrote:Seriously, what the hell made Mike Matthews think that it was a good idea to make all of the old school EH effects require different and wacky voltages? I lost the power supplies for both my Flanger Hoax and my MicroSynth and now I don't know what the eff I'm gonna do. I could buy the voodoo power supply but I don't have that kinda cash right now and dudely that was selling one on b/s/t a couple of days ago sold it locally while we were discussing a potential trade (damn you, money!!!).
I know the Hoax takes 18v... anybody know what the MicroSynth requires? Anybody want to buy these bastards offa me so I can get some regular ass 9v effects? It's next to impossible to find these adapters anywhere, it seems.
Hey, is it possible to wire the Hoax up with two 9v batteries, somehow?

yes you can get 2 battery snaps, put the black lead of one to teh red lead of the next. THen the potential accross the non connected black and red will be 18V.
you can also generate 18v from 9 very easily and quite efficeintly with a small circuit using somehtign liek an ICL7660 ic. I have some if you want i could make you a small conversion board in 2 weeks when i have some time. THen you can jsut plug ina regular 9v adaptor to your pedal and the flanger still gets its 18 and everyone is happy.
In theory you could also put 3 9v in series to power the 24v.

Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:20 pm
by Scruffie
multi_s wrote:elbandito wrote:Seriously, what the hell made Mike Matthews think that it was a good idea to make all of the old school EH effects require different and wacky voltages? I lost the power supplies for both my Flanger Hoax and my MicroSynth and now I don't know what the eff I'm gonna do. I could buy the voodoo power supply but I don't have that kinda cash right now and dudely that was selling one on b/s/t a couple of days ago sold it locally while we were discussing a potential trade (damn you, money!!!).
I know the Hoax takes 18v... anybody know what the MicroSynth requires? Anybody want to buy these bastards offa me so I can get some regular ass 9v effects? It's next to impossible to find these adapters anywhere, it seems.
Hey, is it possible to wire the Hoax up with two 9v batteries, somehow?

yes you can get 2 battery snaps, put the black lead of one to teh red lead of the next. THen the potential accross the non connected black and red will be 18V.
you can also generate 18v from 9 very easily and quite efficeintly with a small circuit using somehtign liek an ICL7660 ic. I have some if you want i could make you a small conversion board in 2 weeks when i have some time. THen you can jsut plug ina regular 9v adaptor to your pedal and the flanger still gets its 18 and everyone is happy.
In theory you could also put 3 9v in series to power the 24v.

I don't think a ICL7660 will deliver enough mA... i'm not sure on the draw of the EHX pedals but i'd imagine you'd want a LT1054 for 100mA atleast.
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:28 pm
by multi_s
ya true enough. i guess thats why i said "something like". iirc both ics run the same way.
i think the flanger hoax draws ~ 75mA.
Re: Damn you, Electro-Harmonix!!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:32 pm
by Scruffie
multi_s wrote:ya true enough. i guess thats why i said "something like". iirc both ics run the same way.
i think the flanger hoax draws ~ 75mA.
Ah true you did quantify your answer, I missed that.
The LT1054 is rated to 100mA, the MAX1044 & ICL7660 are only 10 according to the datasheet so yeah.