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Yeah man, the Old stuff rules. 4th of July is one of the heaviest songs ever recorded in my books.

The new stuff does stink, some good riffs, but as a whole, it was poo.

Seen them back on the reunion tour in 2011, they ruled. It was before they started writing the new shit, or at least playing the new shit.


Got to see SG play with Mastodon and QOTSA at the Gorge a couple of years ago. Best show ever. highlight was Brent Hynds rockin out side stage for the whole queens set. I caught Soundgarden last year on the King Animal tour and was pretty disappointed, not because of the new material (while obv not as good as the old stuff, but not as bad as I was expecting), but because the sound was complete shit. And I totally agree on 4th of July....badassery.
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So I think we are gonna play out for our first show on Aug 16th. I'm fucking nervous as hell about it. Usually shows don't bother me, but this time it will be me doing all of the vocals which I've never done before aside from a few backups here and there. Plus the drummer has never played a show before either so I'm really nervous about that.
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DUDE. Did you see them in a stadium?
I seen them on an outside stage... they were tight as fuck, but it sounded BADDDD. I was bummed about that, but again, they were tight and Cornell was singin' like a god.
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conky wrote:So I think we are gonna play out for our first show on Aug 16th. I'm fucking nervous as hell about it. Usually shows don't bother me, but this time it will be me doing all of the vocals which I've never done before aside from a few backups here and there. Plus the drummer has never played a show before either so I'm really nervous about that.


1) Breathe. Period. When not singing breathe as slow and deep as you can, when your doing vox and guitar its easy to get yourself worked up to your max and get lightheaded. Take it slow.

2) Don't push your vox at practice the week before the show, even when ramping yourself up its easy to go to far and hurt your throat.

3) Teach your drummer proper show etiquette starting now. i.e; don't tear down on stage, get on and off as quick as possible, get there early and set up well before hand so you can take a break before you play, tear down off stage after your set, and don't load out while another band is playing. I'm a nazi about stage etiquette though, but i believe in leading by example and showing the other bands the same respect that you expect from them.

4) Don't stress out, it's this bands first show, HAVE FUN!
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The Gorge is a large outdoor amphitheater. The sound was actually really good, and Cornell was a beast indeed. I saw them once in the 90s, and he was so fucked up he could barely stand let alone sing.

Clifton - kickass man! I'm sure you guys will rock it. :thumb:
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I'd go with the bassman all day long. Just my two cents.

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Oh shit empty paradigm you should really get that 135!
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conky wrote:So I think we are gonna play out for our first show on Aug 16th. I'm fucking nervous as hell about it. Usually shows don't bother me, but this time it will be me doing all of the vocals which I've never done before aside from a few backups here and there. Plus the drummer has never played a show before either so I'm really nervous about that.


1) Breathe. Period. When not singing breathe as slow and deep as you can, when your doing vox and guitar its easy to get yourself worked up to your max and get lightheaded. Take it slow.

2) Don't push your vox at practice the week before the show, even when ramping yourself up its easy to go to far and hurt your throat.

3) Teach your drummer proper show etiquette starting now. i.e; don't tear down on stage, get on and off as quick as possible, get there early and set up well before hand so you can take a break before you play, tear down off stage after your set, and don't load out while another band is playing. I'm a nazi about stage etiquette though, but i believe in leading by example and showing the other bands the same respect that you expect from them.

4) Don't stress out, it's this bands first show, HAVE FUN!


Good advice all around. I'm mostly worried that I'll forget the words and that the sound guy is gonna have my vocals really loud out front and I'm gonna sound like ass. Stage etiquette is a big deal with me too. That is another reason I'm kinda worried. We have a ton of gear and I know I'm gonna feel rushed getting my shit off stage since I've got well over double the gear to move. I just feel like I'm gonna lose something through the process. Jason is kinda weird about setting his crap up too. I think it'll go ok, I'm just stressing over small shit. I know it will be tons of fun.
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It's better to be silent, then to spurt out random words if you forget the lyrics. :thumb:

If you can handle a patient in cardiac arrest, you can handle the stress of a first gig with a band. I fear my first gig with the new project, it will be my first time using 4 huge cabs and a master / slave 2 amp setup with 2 pedalboards, it ain't gonna be fun... Except while playing. :rock:
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I don't mind setting up large cabs the night we're playing a show, but god damn it, I hate having to unload them back to the upstairs jam room. That shit suuuuuuuuuucks!
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So glad me and the guys moved from upstairs to the main floor because we're playing shows soon... fuck. Bringing that shit downstairs sucked so bad.
Would hate to repeat that.
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Ancient Astronaught wrote:It's better to be silent, then to spurt out random words if you forget the lyrics. :thumb:

If you can handle a patient in cardiac arrest, you can handle the stress of a first gig with a band. I fear my first gig with the new project, it will be my first time using 4 huge cabs and a master / slave 2 amp setup with 2 pedalboards, it ain't gonna be fun... Except while loading in and out. :rock:


Fixed. :poke:

I can handle blood and guts and trying to keep people from dying on me all day long. I just really don't wanna look stupid on stage. It sounds really conceited and dumb, but everyone in the area is hyping my new band up and they haven't even heard it yet just because the last band I was in was signed, and we broke out of town and toured a little bit. Its dumb as fuck, but I'm finding myself getting caught up in the hype and thinking I have to live up to that "rock star" status that this scene has put on my old band. It sounds nothing like it (we played technical metal: think D.E.P. mixed with Iron Maiden and Faith No More) and I know people are gonna be disappointed. I don't care what people think really but I do if that makes sense. Point is, I want this new band to rip the faces off of everyone around and I'm praying that there are no major hiccups in our first time playing out because I wanna leave a really good impression on the area.
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conky wrote:
Ancient Astronaught wrote:It's better to be silent, then to spurt out random words if you forget the lyrics. :thumb:

If you can handle a patient in cardiac arrest, you can handle the stress of a first gig with a band. I fear my first gig with the new project, it will be my first time using 4 huge cabs and a master / slave 2 amp setup with 2 pedalboards, it ain't gonna be fun... Except while loading in and out. :rock:


Fixed. :poke:

I can handle blood and guts and trying to keep people from dying on me all day long. I just really don't wanna look stupid on stage. It sounds really conceited and dumb, but everyone in the area is hyping my new band up and they haven't even heard it yet just because the last band I was in was signed, and we broke out of town and toured a little bit. Its dumb as fuck, but I'm finding myself getting caught up in the hype and thinking I have to live up to that "rock star" status that this scene has put on my old band. It sounds nothing like it (we played technical metal: think D.E.P. mixed with Iron Maiden and Faith No More) and I know people are gonna be disappointed. I don't care what people think really but I do if that makes sense. Point is, I want this new band to rip the faces off of everyone around and I'm praying that there are no major hiccups in our first time playing out because I wanna leave a really good impression on the area.


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I know that feel brah, I just left a band that got signed to a well known small indie label and has a song in the trailer of a big budget A list movie. And a couple of my past projects have toured heavily. After a while people expect quality out of you, even with new projects, and you feel as if you have to live up to the hype. My secret is to just not worry about it and go out and give my all every show. Fuck the people who complain because its a different genre, you need not worry yourself with the judgements of close minded fools. And trust me if your live show is anything like the vids you posted, you won't just rip their faces off you'll tear their heads clean off!
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louderthangod wrote:I was really digging that except for the drummer and all the cymbal crashes...waaaaaaay too much. It seems like drummers that play heavy on the toms in a riffy, almost melodic way are nearly impossible to find after the 70's. The last few went into jazz-fusion and the world of rock was forever left with guys that wanted to be in the marching band or on the gong show. Actually gongs are the only cool cymbals made. Drummers should be the god of thunder not the clumsy waiter that dropped a tray of silverware.

That's an interesting perspective. I know some people, including myself, that don't like recordings with heavy cymbals because of sibilance. This is mostly due to poor quality speakers though. Once I upgraded to amateur studio monitors I could listen to Deftones without any of that annoying sibilance and sizzle. Some drummers use cymbals

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Ancient Astronaught wrote:It's better to be silent, then to spurt out random words if you forget the lyrics. :thumb:

If you can handle a patient in cardiac arrest, you can handle the stress of a first gig with a band. I fear my first gig with the new project, it will be my first time using 4 huge cabs and a master / slave 2 amp setup with 2 pedalboards, it ain't gonna be fun... Except while playing. :rock:

I wish I could just transport myself to and from shows. Transplant myself onto the stage with no concerns or worries, have someone strap my perfectly set-up guitar onto my shoulders and take it off when the set is over. I prefer taking things down than setting things up. There is a satisfaction and a relief to putting it all away.
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