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Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 1:31 am
by multi_s
goroth wrote:Tristan wrote:Yay, mine arrived here too!

Just a question, how do you guys put it in quantized mode 1?
I tried to follow Scott's steps but in this short time experimenting with the Count To Five I haven't been able to get it out of Goodbye 24 mode 1 yet.

same here.

Hi,
To get quantizations:
1) Go to mode 1/gb24 mode by putting the mode toggle up.
2) Position the DIR 1 knob ccw for no quantization, 12 oclock for semitone quantization, cw for perfect fifths and octave quantization.
3) activate your quantization mode by TAPPING the soft foot switch. Tapping means just push the button briefly. Do not hold it down. For example tapping also stops playback in Modes 2 and 3.
The quantization once set affects all modes dir knobs (dir 1 in mode 2, dir 1,2,3 in mode 3).
S
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:46 am
by Tristan
Ah, got it, thanks!
It doesn't completely work right away the first time around but what I do now is keep turning the DIR 1 knob to the desired point and tapping the soft footswitch quickly a few times after eachother, that seems to do the trick.

Also really awesome trick the quantization affects all modes!

There's another thing I'd like to ask, does the Count To Five have an internal trimpot for the mix / volume like the Goodbye 24?
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:10 am
by DarkAxel
PAYPAL'D YESTERDAY
now... I admit I don't usually buy stuff new (because i usually don't have the money). But last time I didn't jump on a pedal like this, I ended up not being able to get it later (GB24)
and I need some fuel for my textural background loops
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:45 pm
by multi_s
Tristan wrote:Ah, got it, thanks!
It doesn't completely work right away the first time around but what I do now is keep turning the DIR 1 knob to the desired point and tapping the soft footswitch quickly a few times after eachother, that seems to do the trick.

it should work the first try. the tap has to be fairly short.
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:55 pm
by Tristan
Guess I still need to get the right "touch" for it but it works now so that's cool.
Any word on the internal mix /volume trimpot, I remember the Goodbye 24 has one but I don't know about the Count To Five?
It's loud as balls, especially on upper interval settings, I can only turn it up halfway max without me getting shocked, joking of course, but it's kinda loud.

Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:31 pm
by MrNovember
I can't believe I missed this
Oh well, better late than never! Emailed!
I really shouldn't spend money on this because I'm dropping so much into my modular set up but I am not missing out on this pedal!
Looks and sounds way too good!
PS: I'd totally buy a eurorack version...
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:26 pm
by skullservant
Just tried the quantize, so freaking cool!!!
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:02 pm
by Uncle Grandfather
Quantize is great
So is the expression jack, just started using that with the gb24

Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:27 pm
by multi_s
Tristan wrote:Guess I still need to get the right "touch" for it but it works now so that's cool.
Any word on the internal mix /volume trimpot, I remember the Goodbye 24 has one but I don't know about the Count To Five?
It's loud as balls, especially on upper interval settings, I can only turn it up halfway max without me getting shocked, joking of course, but it's kinda loud.

It really shouldn't be that loud. There are 2 trim pots inside but 1 of them you really don't want to touch so please read this carefully and be mindful if your going to make any adjustments.
You remove the back, look in the middle of the pcb, component side, there are 2 blue trim pots. You may be able to see on the silkscreen that the one closest to the edge of the PCB says 'offset' beside it. Do not touch this trim pot.
Look at the other trim pot now, it might be hard to see with the pcb in the case but it says 'gain' beside it. You can try using a small screwdriver to turn this counter-clockwise and it will reduce the level of the signal going into the dsp, and in turn lower the volume coming out. This is the only gain adjustment that can be made user side. If it is really really off maybe there is a wrong part in the mixer section, although i tested all units before being sent out and they seem ok. So if you still have problems please email me and we can look further into it.
Keep in mind also that the pedal layers several copies of the same sound in certain settings, so for example in mode 3, with only 1 DIR knob active, the wet sound is much quieter than when all 3 heads are active. Similarly, the first mode with high feedback will seem louder than when feedback is at the min. The mix knob might not be as set and forget as you wish if you are always trying to have the clean and wet exactly even.
And now, as only half a joke, another problem in general is that your ears don't hear all frequencies evenly. So if you take a low tone and constantly pitch it up, there will be some perceived volume increase as it traverses the mids, even if it maintains exactly the same amplitude. This is why things like this exist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour and psycho acoustics is an actual field of study.
Now since the pedal doesn't track pitch at all, i make no attempt to remedy this in the firmware, save for a low pass filter that will choke out pitches that are getting piercingly high, but that's not really the same issue.
I'm not saying this to be like "oh its not the pedal, its your ears" as a cop out. I think its an interesting comment and thought you might find it an interesting reply.
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:35 pm
by multi_s
Uncle Grandfather wrote:Quantize is great
So is the expression jack, just started using that with the gb24

This is a finer detail, but since I haven't finished making the manual video i'll note it. If you have the expression pedal plugged in and EXP switch set so that the expression pedal functions as the DIR 1 knob, you still use the on pedal DIR 1 knob (not the expression pedal) to select quantizations. The position of the expression pedal will not pick the quantization, even if it controls DIR 1.
So once again, quantizations, go to mode 1, use the DIR 1 knob with the soft footswitch always.
Also regarding "not wanting to miss...", Right now i think there are still a few days left of the free shipping/intro price promotion, so it is cheaper to buy it now rather than later, but after this week it will still be in production until at least the end of this year, and more likely until something supercedes it.
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Re: Count To Five
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:04 am
by Joe Gress
Email sent. I want this so bad
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:54 am
by MrNovember
Payment sent....and now we play the waiting game
Pretty happy I made it in before the end of the intro price and free shipping period!
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:34 am
by goroth
Thanks for the info Scott. I haven't tried mine with the gig rig yet, but at home volumes I'd say this pumps out shit loads of volume at anything above around 25% wet. But I'm not going to mess with anything until I've checked properly at a decent volume.
But man... Mode two... Woahooo!!!
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:08 am
by skullservant
Recorded a song using the Count to 5 on Goodbye 24 mode 1, I'm going to master it tonight and I'll post it up here!
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:39 am
by multi_s
skullservant wrote:Recorded a song using the Count to 5 on Goodbye 24 mode 1, I'm going to master it tonight and I'll post it up here!
sweet times, and if your doing some mastering, id be interested in anyone's take on this:
http://mixgenius.com/landr/Its another Montreal startup and i've met a few of the people involved since its about a block north of where i work out of. Very interesting but since I don't record much music myself i haven't been able to seriously try it out.