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tremolo3 wrote: no, I'm not kidding, I can't simply enjoy actors who repeat themselves over and over. If they could only say "no" when they get offers for samey characters.

I take it you're a big Nicholas Cage fan.


I really think the director has more to do with badly played roles than the actors in a lot of movies. I blame Len Wiseman completely for the failure of the 2012 remake of Total Recall. I've seen with my own eyes that Colin Farrell can actually act (In Bruges) and Kate Beckinsale did okay in Stonehearst Asylum, so she can at least do better than she did in TR. Bryan Cranston was undeniably the greatest actor involved, but even he couldn't save that schlock fest.

When I think of Megan Fox, I think of Transformers. Which makes me think of Michael Bay. I don't know what else she's in.

But Michael Bay.

Bloodhammer wrote: When I think of Megan Fox, I think of Transformers. Which makes me think of Michael Bay. I don't know what else she's in.

Jennifer's Body.
I remember that a handful of people watched that, but I have absolutely no idea what happened or if she was even viewed as passable.

vidret wrote:tom cruise is a good actor, if not a great one.

and this is actually food acording to some.

Bloodhammer wrote:

tremolo3 wrote: no, I'm not kidding, I can't simply enjoy actors who repeat themselves over and over. If they could only say "no" when they get offers for samey characters.

I take it you're a big Nicholas Cage fan.


I really think the director has more to do with badly played roles than the actors in a lot of movies. I blame Len Wiseman completely for the failure of the 2012 remake of Total Recall. I've seen with my own eyes that Colin Farrell can actually act (In Bruges) and Kate Beckinsale did okay in Stonehearst Asylum, so she can at least do better than she did in TR. Bryan Cranston was undeniably the greatest actor involved, but even he couldn't save that schlock fest.

When I think of Megan Fox, I think of Transformers. Which makes me think of Michael Bay. I don't know what else she's in.

But Michael Bay.

I agree-ish... and I'd say more pre-underworld Kate Beckinsale movies show that she is better then what she normally does anymore..
I fucking hate all those fucking trans-bot movies, who can even tell if the actors can act, the movies are bags of moldy puss covered tampons.
And.. in defense of the actors in GITS, they did ok considering... the writing [I mean really it's like they got an unpaid interim to write down highlights from the other movies/tv and wrote a screenplay from them], the directing, the production, the over-reliance on bad CG, lame filtering and overuse of hound dogs.

You didn't have to pick an alternate career, yet you did. You even said she was 'made' for it. That says it all.

Lol ok.

You've been on the forum for nearly a year and you still don't get vidret, yet, idiot?

Yeah, I don't think you get me.

vidret wrote:and yo blackened, please tell me how those movies i listed are badly acted by tom cruise, cause i can't see it.

All those movies you could have replaced him with many other action type actors and they would have been as good or better, he like a lot of other actors of his type are only good at playing themselves playing: angry or cocky or badass or confused or whatever the key emotion the role dictates, not actually protraying a new character. So you first have to like or identify with the actor themselves in some way to be able to accept them in these roles.. same with schwarzenegger, willis, gibson etc.. The only movie I ever though cruse did a good job in was Legend because success of cruise playing cruise had not sunken in and Tim Curry... Which beings about the other part.. the supporting actors MAKE those types of movies work as much as or more than the star does.

Also, on Keanu Reeves.. it doesn't matter how good a job he does, how good the movie is... the second he is in frame I HAVE To say
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps2G3c6lv0k[/youtube]

Megan Fox has toe thumbs, vid. Hows that gonna work for hand jobs? You gonna kill two birds with one stone and call it a foot fetish as well?

Also Tom Cruise didnt suck in Last Samurai.

Edit: damn phone missed my whole point autocorrecting.

I don't think 2017 can be such a great movie year with both Kong Skull Island and that Luc Besson piece of trash in there...

I watched (most of ?) the Kong movie in the airplane recently and even by airplane movie standards it was utter crap. I think I only kept watching because of John C Reilly but even him couldn't save that thing...

You mean valerian? Plz don't tell me it's bad.

Iommic Pope wrote:Megan Fox has toe thumbs, vid.

This is one of the reasons people genuinely believed I was related to her after Transformers released.

I doubt it.

vidret wrote:

Blackened Soul wrote: All those movies you could have replaced him with many other action type actors and they would have been as good or better, he like a lot of other actors of his type are only good at playing themselves playing: angry or cocky or badass or confused or whatever the key emotion the role dictates, not actually protraying a new character. So you first have to like or identify with the actor themselves in some way to be able to accept them in these roles.. same with schwarzenegger, willis, gibson etc..

I mean, I disagree. 'Collateral' isn't his good ol' jerry maguire, for example.

So you're saying:

tom cruise
arnold schwarzenegger
bruce willis
mel gibson
scarlett johansson
mark wahlberg

are all BAD actors? like BAD bad? I can definitely see that if you don't like the actor him/herself then the movie becomes a hard watch.
Like tobey maguire for me, only thing i could watch him in was 'the ciderhouse rules', but he's not a bad actor, I just don't like it when a movie is relying heavily on him for example as a SUPERHERO.

The only one I MIGHT concede on that list is Arnold, and goddamn if he doesn't fit right in at some points, so it doesn't matter

That's not exactly what I said. You have to take things into context. Except cruise, you are just wrong and nothing you say or do can fix that.

tremolo3 wrote:Let me guess, you guys who think Scarlett Johansson is not a bad actress also think that Keanu Reeves is not bad either?

How about Mark Wahlberg, Paul Walker and Megan Fox?

You are spot the fuck on dude. Except Mark can be good in some stuff. Good actor however? Not the best IMO. He's best in half baked roles but I actually liked him in some stuff. However Boogie Nights was fucking terrible. Keanu is amazingly bad. Megan Fox is good looking, that's about all you can say there. Paul Walker. Just LOL. That's all.

Add in fucking Colin Farrel and John Cusack and you'd have a list of some of the worst movies ever made.

I will say I like Colin Farrel in Fright Night and there was one action film I can't recall that he was ok in.