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Wait this wasn't a joke thread?

I was sure it was. :| Now I'm confused and ashamed that i touched the poop.

FYI I have not read every letter of this thread, nor watched all the posted videos...... so if I'm missing a mark, let me know.

I have a very good friend (in fact he's the friend I've known the longest out of ALL my friends) who dived into this very same stuff. I DO have to admit that there are some things that seem pretty compelling.....until you start to ask more questions...

If anyone wants to get to the truth of the matter, they absolutely MUST examine ALL sides of the story. The pros, the cons, the outliers, etc.... And if I may toss in my two cents, everyone should learn some basic cognitive neuroscience. It's not that hard to understand and it will teach you more of the "whys" that people do the things they do than most religious or philosophical texts will. If you're going to read David Icke, then you'd better read his debunkers/opponents/whatever you want to call them. How else are you going to get to some sort of truth? My friend used the example of a connect-the-dots picture. The more dots you have, the more a picture seems likely. He used this to illustrate why someone like Icke might be right. But the way I see it, that's no different than looking at clouds. One person sees a rabbit, another sees a lizard.... One person sees lizard hybrid aliens controlling everything via the Rockefellers and mass media...etc, and the other person sees the super rich taking advantage of societies too preoccupied with twitter and xbox and religious fundamentalism and who should use what bathroom to realize than their currency is fake and they never agreed to live in this social structure, among a huge list of other things I could bitch about. But the consequences for the average person ARE THE SAME.

Secondly, I gave this stuff a somewhat serious look because my friend and I are very close. But I always came to the same conclusions:

-You can argue back and forth about the points of any given conspiracy theories, but at some point someone has to choose to believe one source over another. This is true of just about anything, too. Why believe one source (like David Icke) over another, like a neuroscientist for example? Why do we have flat earth "theorists" in 2016 when there are overwhelming data showing that it's a sphere (well, almost a sphere, but I'm not here to split hairs ) ?

-The more pertinent conclusion, that we should focus on what is practical at a day to day level and not on a level that we can't influence or change. By this I mean that it's no stretch that the super rich are influencing elections, whether directly, covertly, overtly, or whatever.... This election cycle in the USA has brought that to the forefront more than ever before. But to say that the super rich are actually influenced by hybrid lizard aliens is a stretch that not only is basically un-provable (at least at this point) but is irrelevant to people like us who are just trying to get by. The fact of the matter remains that we still have to learn to rely less on our society (imo) and more upon our skills. The "power elite" are likely going to do whatever the hell they want, whenever they want, anyways so until the lizards are marching down the street I'll focus on trying to become more self-sufficient. It's far more practical than spending a bunch of time researching stuff that may or may not have a tangible consequence.

-Which leads me to my last point, which is this: What if.... what IF it's all true, and they (the hypothetical lizards) would rather have people confused and searching all these endless rabbit-holes instead of taking actions and revolting or changing things? I mean, there are all these people writing books, blogs, and making videos and giving presentations and doing all this research.... instead of taking tangible actions towards positive changes.

Whether or not the Earth is flat, we still have to live on it, you know?

I know that believers will say something like "knowledge is power!" and to that I would reply "Then learn how to grow food, purify water, and rely less on the machine you live in." That's useful knowledge. Save the Icke research for after you can take care of yourself. Because if he's right, then you'll have no choice but to take care of yourself anyway.

I also was confused whether this was a joke thread.... Either way, I'll still say what I said.

If this is all true, then kill Michael Jordan.

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UglyCasanova wrote:

psychic vampire. wrote:

UglyCasanova wrote:My friend once told me "if you worry about whether or not you're crazy, you're not crazy. But, if more and more people start telling you that you are, and you don't believe them, you're definitely crazy".

Unfortunately, plenty of crazy people are very well aware that the way they experience the world is different. This implies less that one is crazy, and more that one might be experience certain kinds of neurodivergence.

Out of my entire post, you wanted to nitpick at this? Yes, I do understand that such a statement is not representative of ALL cases, but that's wasn't really the reason why I chose to quote said friend. If Sparrow is categorized by the latter example of my friend's quote, I don't see the relevance of bringing in the third, unmentioned, category of people. I was simply getting at the fact that a staggering amount of people have been hinting at, or straight up telling him, that he's lost his marbles and he's ignoring it by writing something about Jesus.

Okay, let me apologize and put it another way. Whether or not Sparrow is actually crazy is immaterial here; Sparrow is not going to get help unless they decide that they want help. I'm sure you know this, but the more important part of my response was that telling a crazy person they are crazy is not usually the way to get them into treatment, unfortunately.

While that might be true, I think this thread needed to take this turn, especially since many of you seem to have thought that it was somehow a joke. I'm not going to sit around and pretend that nothing is off, although I obviously will not invest a lot of time in getting Josh help seeing as I'm just some text on the internet...

Ugh yeah I feel like a dick I thought this was all an elaborate troll. Please don't go all Roddy Piper on the lizard folk, sparrow. Just love your enemy like your buddy jesus said.

I tried over and over and over to "help" my friend. But when all is said and done, no one will change themselves unless they want to change. All I try to do is get people to look at as many sides of a story as possible, and remember that 90% of that information is basically just (as Elvind put it) "some text on the internet." I mean, how can you really trust what someone says about something they claim to be fact? How many times have we heard something a buddy told us and then told everyone else "hey, did you know that 'blah blah blah' " without even checking it out ourselves. Human memory is an unreliable bitch, and this has been shown in experiments and studies over and over and over again. That's why I pushed for practicality.

I said it once and I'll say it one more time, it doesn't matter if evil alien lizard overlords have trapped us in a matrix being projected from Saturn, or if we're being duped by the super rich into thinking our votes (at least in the USA) make a difference.... we still have problems that need solutions, and I just don't think that sitting around on conspiracy blog sites and youtube channels is going to help fix any of those problems.

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Jesus Christ is GOD. i'm not trying to annoy anyone here. i Love ALL of you. i've never been lying.

SPARROW LIVES

Chankgeez wrote:SPARROW LIVES

US Capitol buildings grounds are designed to represent moloch, the weird child sacrifice owl god thats at the bohemian grove, etc...

What sphinx of cement and aluminum bashed open their skulls and ate up their brains and imagination?
Moloch! Solitude! Filth! Ugliness! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars! Children screaming under the stairways! Boys sobbing in armies! Old men weeping in the parks!
Moloch! Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch! Moloch the loveless! Mental Moloch! Moloch the heavy judger of men!
Moloch the incomprehensible prison! Moloch the crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of sorrows! Moloch whose buildings are judgment! Moloch the vast stone of war! Moloch the stunned governments!
Moloch whose mind is pure machinery! Moloch whose blood is running money! Moloch whose fingers are ten armies! Moloch whose breast is a cannibal dynamo! Moloch whose ear is a smoking tomb!
Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Moloch whose skyscrapers stand in the long streets like endless Jehovahs! Moloch whose factories dream and croak in the fog! Moloch whose smoke-stacks and antennae crown the cities!
Moloch whose love is endless oil and stone! Moloch whose soul is electricity and banks! Moloch whose poverty is the specter of genius! Moloch whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen! Moloch whose name is the Mind!
Moloch in whom I sit lonely! Moloch in whom I dream Angels! Crazy in Moloch! Cocksucker in Moloch! Lacklove and manless in Moloch!
Moloch who entered my soul early! Moloch in whom I am a consciousness without a body! Moloch who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy! Moloch whom I abandon! Wake up in Moloch! Light streaming out of the sky!
Moloch! Moloch! Robot apartments! invisible suburbs! skeleton treasuries! blind capitals! demonic industries! spectral nations! invincible madhouses! granite cocks! monstrous bombs!
They broke their backs lifting Moloch to Heaven! Pavements, trees, radios, tons! lifting the city to Heaven which exists and is everywhere about us!
Visions! omens! hallucinations! miracles! ecstasies! gone down the American river!
Dreams! adorations! illuminations! religions! the whole boatload of sensitive bullshit!
Breakthroughs! over the river! flips and crucifixions! gone down the flood! Highs! Epiphanies! Despairs! Ten years’ animal screams and suicides! Minds! New loves! Mad generation! down on the rocks of Time!
Real holy laughter in the river! They saw it all! the wild eyes! the holy yells! They bade farewell! They jumped off the roof! to solitude! waving! carrying flowers! Down to the river! into the street!

Tfw no annunaki gf