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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:28 pm
by AngryGoldfish
AxAxSxS wrote:fuck it. this is off the cuff and brand spanking new but I feel like sharing it. We need to explore this and make it a real song. Fucking happy that we can just wing something like this.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/john-kennedy-37/sabbout[/soundcloud]

Sounded awesome. Really really. Love the effects after the midway point of the track. The sound quality is really excellent as well considering it's just two condenser microphones in the centre of the room. It shows you've spent some time trying to perfect the sound.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:
AngryGoldfish wrote:I was listening to the new Deafheaven today on stream, and to be honest I wasn't jiving it. The first song was too long and repetitive. I guess it put me off. I'll give it another shot though.


You got a link? It's hopefully gonna be a streaming day at work. :yay:

Indeed I do:

http://deafheavens.bandcamp.com/album/sunbather

The Wood Wizard wrote:OH yeah, finished this todayyy!!!

Technically it needs one more coat of oil but whatever, its raining... :grumpy:

full pics here https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 963&type=3


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Looks stunning, TJ. Fantastic workmanship.

AxAxSxS wrote:Thanks to fancy mike and the ebay thread, I just bought this from GC (not this actual one but the same thing)

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One step closer to my goal of all fridge cabs for Flux.

Nice one, matey. Congrats!

Iommic Pope wrote:And you guys are sort of inspiring me to post shit that I was doing last year with this band I was jamming with, as it was just like Ryan said, one riff wonder-type of shit.
But, I'm too ball-less...

And, FUCK YES TO DEATH (the band)!!!!!!! :success:

Please, PLEASE don't post your shit. I know all this talk of toilets and shit is getting everyone pumped up, but we need to keep this place free of shit. :p

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:52 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
AngryGoldfish wrote:Indeed I do:

http://deafheavens.bandcamp.com/album/sunbather


Please, PLEASE don't post your shit. I know all this talk of toilets and shit is getting everyone pumped up, but we need to keep this place free of shit. :p


Checking it out now! Thanks broham!!!



:facepalm: :lol:

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:55 pm
by AngryGoldfish
dazedbyday wrote:Well now I need to go back and re listen to snakes. I only really listened to it once or twice when it first came out and nothing really grabbed me on it. Although I do have to say I kinda like the little weird stuff as what really grabbed me the first time was Khanrad's Wall and Turk as a combo. That twelve string (I think) he used on khanrad just stood out to me. Death was also HOF first album I really listened to. Also I agree on the production values. I just think Death struck the best balance between keeping the rawer feeling that I think fits with HOF and the clean of making the music clear. I think some of the fog on the earlier albums is a little too much. I don't like listening to some black metal because they went too lo-fi and it takes away from the music (while others will say it lends to the music because of the genre but :idk: )

Also TJ. Really great work on the doom train shell.

I agree with this. I see where Skip is coming from regarding the quality of the recording process, but there is something golden about raw music that lacks the finer precision of modern production values (and I know you know this, Skip, I'm just joining the conversation). The music is still excellent but the memories you associate with the band changes from being humble and approachable to otherworldly and godlike. I just prefer the more raw approach because of how comforting it is. It's the same with the band Placebo. When I saw them in 2009 supporting their new album, I just wasn't impressed. They had five or so extra musicians on stage with them and it just lost its charm. The whole three-piece beauty disappeared. There is something warm about seeing a three-piece duke it out proudly. It's raw, close, and passionate.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:58 pm
by LOCOPELAND
AngryGoldfish wrote:
AxAxSxS wrote:fuck it. this is off the cuff and brand spanking new but I feel like sharing it. We need to explore this and make it a real song. Fucking happy that we can just wing something like this.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/john-kennedy-37/sabbout[/soundcloud]

Sounded awesome. Really really. Love the effects after the midway point of the track. The sound quality is really excellent as well considering it's just two condenser microphones in the centre of the room. It shows you've spent some time trying to perfect the sound.


Thanks! The bass effects are a muff clone built by Ax and El Oso bass distortion stacked with some 105q wah action shortly after the 4 minute mark. I fucking love how that wah sounds with fuzz/distortion.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:59 pm
by AngryGoldfish
Damn, that's a wah? Wow. Sounds sick. I'm not a huge wah-wah fan, but I dug the way you used it there. It had less of a 'wah' and more of a filtered sound.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:07 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
AngryGoldfish wrote:I agree with this. I see where Skip is coming from regarding the quality of the recording process, but there is something golden about raw music that lacks the finer precision of modern production values (and I know you know this, Skip, I'm just joining the conversation). The music is still excellent but the memories you associate with the band changes from being humble and approachable to otherworldly and godlike. I just prefer the more raw approach because of how comforting it is. It's the same with the band Placebo. When I saw them in 2009 supporting their new album, I just wasn't impressed. They had five or so extra musicians on stage with them and it just lost its charm. The whole three-piece beauty disappeared. There is something warm about seeing a three-piece duke it out proudly. It's raw, close, and passionate.


I concur my friend, raw emotional music needs a raw recording or it sounds forced and produced (as in unnatural and artificially created). But as a band evolves I personally don't see a problem with the recording quality improving, great example to me is Mayhem. They let the recording quality improve with each album but what they did that impressed me was lowered the quality of some of the sounds. Listen to ordo ad chao, the drums if under any other context would sound like utter shit, they literally sound like wet cardboard boxes but it just works so well the way they used it. To me that album is the pinnacle of how modern black metal should sound, with modern clarity and depth but unorthodox dirty and disgusting tones that leave you feeling unsettled.

Dude I'm with you on the adding members unnecessarily. We tried adding a string section for shows for about 6 months and it did nothing but hinder our own chemistry as a five piece and cause unnecessary tension and equipment problems. Any bands i form from here on out though are gonna be a three piece, like you said theres nothing like the raw passion of a three piece hell bent on sonic domination.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:09 pm
by LOCOPELAND
AngryGoldfish wrote:Damn, that's a wah? Wow. Sounds sick. I'm not a huge wah-wah fan, but I dug the way you used it there. It had less of a 'wah' and more of a filtered sound.


Thanks again, man! haha

I'm still getting used to using wah (shit...effects in general. I wasn't much of a pedal fiend until I started playing heavier stuff lol). But I'm glad you dig it...guess I'm doing it right! :yay:

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:34 pm
by CaptainBoxman
Raw recordings are best recordings. This is one of the many reasons I love Dinosaur Jr., High on Fire, and even bands I'm sure you all hate like Neutral Milk Hotel and Pixies.

Stripped or low-fi recordings where there are few gimmicks and obvious clean ups are the best. What I like to hear is what Steve Albini referred to as "archiving" a band.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:38 pm
by pelliott
The Pixies are the best and the haters can hate but the Pixies. They are the best.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:39 pm
by CaptainBoxman
Then you'll be sad to know that Kim Deal officially left today

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:43 pm
by pelliott
Yeah heard about that. It's a bummer but Black Francis kinda strikes me as a crazy person (just a hunch) and difficult to work with.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:59 pm
by CaptainBoxman
I'm seriously thinking about selling or trading my OTR. I've put it up in the BST as a trade for now to see if anyone would do a straight swap for it, though you gents would like to know.

PEACE.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:01 pm
by HeavyXIII
vidret wrote:late on the Hof train as well.

don't kill me, but in my opinion "surrounded by thieves" is too blunt, BBW (hhehehehehe yeahhhpp and DITC really do nail the sound whereas "snakes" is slightly sharper - and i do prefer the snakes sound to the thieves sound.

some of their best sounds come from the original album (defense) so i don't see what happened when they released thieves and it all turned to bass-y mush really.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUXDktBIhwc[/youtube]

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :!!!: :!!!: :drool:


I really liked the production on SbT... It was muffled, but it fit the tone they set for the album in my eyes. I remember feeling that the fogginess made it feel oppressive, as though you wish it were clearer so you could "get it", but then the album was like "nope". It really took a few listens of Snakes for me to pick up on it, but there's still only a handful of songs on there that I can really jam to. De Vermiis made a return to the older style production and mingled old and new style writing IMHO; I was impressed.

That headshell is the fucking tits by the way. Until I really started looking at Emperor cabs, I had never considered doing "burst" finishes for anything other than guitars. Emperor may be a little rich for my blood, but it still looks snazzy as fuck. Did I mention green is my favorite color?

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:03 pm
by AngryGoldfish
CaptainBoxman wrote:Raw recordings are best recordings. This is one of the many reasons I love Dinosaur Jr., High on Fire, and even bands I'm sure you all hate like Neutral Milk Hotel and Pixies.

Stripped or low-fi recordings where there are few gimmicks and obvious clean ups are the best. What I like to hear is what Steve Albini referred to as "archiving" a band.

In The Aeroplane Over The Sea is one of my favourite albums. Pixies, I dig them, but not all of it. Some of it is brutally beautiful and some of it is not my thing.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:15 pm
by LOCOPELAND
Fuckin' looooove the Pixies! Surfer Rosa, even though I haven't listened to it in a reeeeeeally long time, is hands down one of the best albums ever written. Front to back, awesome.