Can we talk about modular synths?

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I can't wrap my head around some of that explanation. It looks like it could be super cool though.

I'm waiting to see a full demo. Also Make Noise guy sounds like a Kyle Mooney character from SNL
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It's basically a one voice synth but with a more west coast (despite the name ;) ) approach.
I.e. no typical filter but a sort of waveshaper/wavefolder, some random voltage generator, some crossfading options, a low-pass gate type thing, etc.

I've got to say, it looks really nice. And I've been quite satisfied by the Makenoise modules I have so far (the amount of hype they get can seem annoying but they are good people who make really good modules so in that case it's deserved hype). I already have a modular but otherwise I would be very tempted by one of these. And then I'd probably get a proper euro case anyway...

It also seems to be quite small and portable, so pretty good for people who want small setups. One of these and a Mother32 would complement each other very nicely and you'd have enough stuff inside to be occupied for a long time without having free space in a big case that would whisper "spend money on me" to your ear everyday ;).
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Thanks! I was just checking on some more stuff about it. I didn't know there was a West Coast/East Coast difference. It seems cool for me who wants to patch stuff up to my Microbrute and SQ1 but is too broke for Eurorack.
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West coast/East coast is an outdated separation but it applied in the 70's to differentiate between typical substractive modular synths (Moog-type) with a VCO-Filter-VCA/Envelope architecture, typically used with traditional keyboards by composers like Wendy Carlos for example and the Buchla/Serge approach, that focused more on wavefolding/shaping for sound generation and with more use of controlled random, also with non-traditional controllers. Buchla worked a lot with composers like Morton Subotnick on that sort of things.

Now, it doesn't really mean anything anymore but it's just a way of saying whether the modules follow a classical substractive synth approach (the Moog Mother32 does for example but it adds lots of new cool tricks) or a more Buchla-influenced approach. Makenoise do enough stuff to cover everything, like most modular manufacturers, but they seem a bit more influenced by the Serge/Buchla modulars in terms of modules types, multi-functionality, etc. Tony Rolando (Makenoise founder) used to work at Moog though, so it's definitely all mixed up :).

Anyway, in the end these are all super nice instruments, it's hard to go wrong with what's available these days.

And if you have a SQ1 and a Microbrute this would indeed add a lot of interesting options. I still haven't seen a detailed description with all the sub-modules but from that video it looks well designed...
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oscillateur wrote:West coast/East coast is an outdated separation but it applied in the 70's to differentiate between typical substractive modular synths (Moog-type) with a VCO-Filter-VCA/Envelope architecture, typically used with traditional keyboards by composers like Wendy Carlos for example and the Buchla/Serge approach, that focused more on wavefolding/shaping for sound generation and with more use of controlled random, also with non-traditional controllers. Buchla worked a lot with composers like Morton Subotnick on that sort of things.

Now, it doesn't really mean anything anymore but it's just a way of saying whether the modules follow a classical substractive synth approach (the Moog Mother32 does for example but it adds lots of new cool tricks) or a more Buchla-influenced approach. Makenoise do enough stuff to cover everything, like most modular manufacturers, but they seem a bit more influenced by the Serge/Buchla modulars in terms of modules types, multi-functionality, etc. Tony Rolando (Makenoise founder) used to work at Moog though, so it's definitely all mixed up :).

Anyway, in the end these are all super nice instruments, it's hard to go wrong with what's available these days.

And if you have a SQ1 and a Microbrute this would indeed add a lot of interesting options. I still haven't seen a detailed description with all the sub-modules but from that video it looks well designed...


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Did somebody say submodules? :D

Roland has updated the customizer app for the Aira FX, with 16 new submodules...

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oscillateur wrote: Tony Rolando (Makenoise founder)
:omg: He needs to start a band playing Tony Orlando & Dawn covers using only synthesizers.

Also, I was subscribed to Makenoise's YouTube channel, but I just unsubscribed because all their demo vids are boring. :snax:
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God damn, this thread is a fascinating and helpful read. Planning on getting a complete voice this summer to dip the toes in modularity, and the Lifeforms and the 0-coast are both now high on the list. Beautiful, beautiful.

Any of y'all have experience wight DIY? Do you have any suggestions for great DIY shit to look at?
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Look in Muffwiggler, aside from some of us ILF is pretty new to modular as a whole. :lol:
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So the Strymon Generalissimo has been fully unveiled and it actually sounds pretty awesome. Basically a four head version of dTape with a fully featured sound on Sound mode which has all the degradation and splice stuff. They've done well for their first foray into the world of euro, I think.
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