ilovefuzz.com

I sounds REALLY good. I love how it applies a lot knowledge from the history of synths (user feedback, and options users want) to create this wonderful modulation and sound source machine (wavetable and fm), while retaining (from what I have heard) a lot of NOVATION attributes (character of the filter). I think this would be great for anyone on the market for a synth looking in that budget ($1300?). If you can wait a year, I bet it will be under a grand.
*while you were looking at Moogs, I was watching Novation demos...*

$harkToootth wrote:I sounds REALLY good. I love how it applies a lot knowledge from the history of synths (user feedback, and options users want) to create this wonderful modulation and sound source machine, while retaining (from what I have heard) a lot of NOVATION attributes. I think this would be great for anyone on the market for a synth looking in that budget ($1300?). If you can wait a year, I bet it will be under a grand.

I've never thought it sounded bad, but I have two major snags with the Peak. 1) It's mono-timbral. Not being able to split or layer sounds is a big miss. 2) It's made in China and it's $1300. If it was made in the UK and cost $1300 or more, that would make sense, but I don't understand why a Chinese-built, keyless, mono-timbral synth is $1300. If I'm going to spend >$1000 for a digital synth, then I'd prefer it to have keys and/or be made outside of Asia.

I overlooked all of those points. Apparently I can't type either. I don't mind the digital oscillators because of stability (even though I don't have issues with my newer analog synths) and Wavetables (sucker for wavetable synths).
I guess Novation assumed speculative consumers already own some Eurorack and/or a synth with a keyboard already (with midi out) or other (like a keystep)?
No excuse for it not being able to layer sounds.
Then again, I'm not on the market for these sorts of things so don't listen to me.
*while you were looking at Novation demos, I was doing Mavis Beacon teaches typing*

$harkToootth wrote:I overlooked all of those points. Apparently I can't type either. I don't mind the digital oscillators because of stability (even though I don't have issues with my newer analog synths) and Wavetables (sucker for wavetable synths).
I guess Novation assumed speculative consumers already own some Eurorack and/or a synth with a keyboard already (with midi out) or other (like a keystep)?
No excuse for it not being able to layer sounds.
Then again, I'm not on the market for these sorts of things so don't listen to me.
*while you were looking at Novation demos, I was doing Mavis Beacon teaches typing*

I don't mind the digital oscillators either, nor do I mind that it's keyless. What I mind is that it's digital, keyless, and $1300. The specs don't line up with the price point IMO.

If an American company can import premium Italian keybeds and assemble their synths in the US, while providing 8 bi-timbral voices for $1499, then why is a keyless module from China $1300? That doesn't make sense to me. You can run an independent sequence with an arpeggiator on the second layer of the REV2. That's a huge advantage over the Peak, which doesn't even have onboard sequencing. Imagine that in a year the REV2 could come without a keyboard. Then what? You might be looking at $1099 for 8 assignable analog voices, compared to the Peak's $1300, with no option for layering or sequencing.

Had the Peak debuted in the $699-899 range, it'd be a home run. At $1300, it's just significantly more than I want to spend on a digital desktop module. I'd spend $1500 on a digital synth (with user-defined presets), if it could emulate a Buchla or an EMS. What I've heard from the Peak sounds a lot like a greatest hits package of more mainstream synth sounds (with enough tweaking and menu work you can emulate a Moog, a Juno, or even some modular clangs). For me, the Peak is kind of operating in a no man's land. The price is slightly high, the sounds are good/VG, but not necessarily uncharted territory. If it was somewhat cheaper, or if it featured more options, it'd be more attractive, but it's just slightly off the mark on multiple fronts.

Really makes you think...how much was the Bass Station when it debuted a few years ago wasn't it $500?
I have a Roland Gaia and I think Roland wanted $700 for it when it hit market (honestly, if you pay $200 for it now, I would say you got ripped off )
I appreciate your points and I agree.
EDIT: Regarding the synths I mentioned, both were years ago and as Echorec has pointed out in other posts, technology has evolved a lot. Unfair comparison.

D.o.S. wrote:Yeah I know this is just part and parcel of your gear prospecting. I was just curious.

Gear preview From Now to Eternity?

[youtube][/youtube]

Chankgeez wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:Yeah I know this is just part and parcel of your gear prospecting. I was just curious.

Gear preview From Now to Eternity?

So this is happening...

https://www.davesmithinstruments.com/pr ... 2-desktop/



According to GearNews, these will be $1799 for 16-voices and $1299 for 8-voices. It's not quite as affordable, as I was speculating yesterday, but it is indeed on the way, well ahead of Winter NAMM.

https://www.gearnews.com/dsi-prophet-re ... s-desktop/

---I'm kind of torn between these now, because even though I don't need the physical keyboard, it does allow the instrument to be operated independently of any additional accessories. Also the price point doesn't necessarily make a huge difference in savings at only $200 for a 5-octave keyboard. I've previously seen a couple of dealers discount DSI stuff by up to 15% during holidays, which leads to the following scenario.

REV2 16-voices, street $1999, -15% = $1699
REV2 16-voices desktop, street $1799, -10% (because it's brand new & in limited supply) = $1619 (at 15%, it hits $1529, which is only a $170 difference)

The only real selling point on the desktop unit is space reduction, as you're certainly not getting a significant drop in price.

https://soundcloud.com/pauldither/sets/ ... ophet-rev2

I remember you mentioning you could get a Peak for some silly price back when it was launched. What happened to that deal Echo?

actualidiot wrote:I remember you mentioning you could get a Peak for some silly price back when it was launched. What happened to that deal Echo?

https://www.gearnews.com/superbooth-201 ... nthesizer/

The price leaked on prodjstore.nl is €599 although that’s now been removed and other information from the internet suggests the price is actually €1300. Sound On Sound say it’s £1249 in the UK and should arrive in mid-May.

^You're probably remembering that. I think I deleted that faulty link from the Dutch vendor, in less than 10 minutes, but it was too late. It had already started to make the rounds. I felt bad about that, and I wished that no one had seen it. I thought, "Oh wow, this is something people can actually afford." But, alas...

This is what I remember

echorec wrote:It looks like I can get a Novation Peak for $650.

But that might be in relation to the above.

actualidiot wrote:This is what I remember

echorec wrote:It looks like I can get a Novation Peak for $650.

But that might be in relation to the above.

I thought I had cleaned all that up, but I guess I need to update it.

echorec wrote:It looks like I can get a Novation Peak for double the original advertised price.

Just over here waiting for John to release the new run of Longswords like:

Looks like a new version of the Raptio is on the horizon

Wat.

Wat！

何 the fuck!!!

(lol my phone's keyboard converted that properly, going to leave it as is)

I don't know what the extra everything does but I want it.