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Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:42 pm
by actual
Yeah, I don't think you get me.
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:52 pm
by Blackened Soul
vidret wrote:and yo blackened, please tell me how those movies i listed are badly acted by tom cruise, cause i can't see it.
All those movies you could have replaced him with many other action type actors and they would have been as good or better, he like a lot of other actors of his type are only good at playing themselves playing: angry or cocky or badass or confused or whatever the key emotion the role dictates, not actually protraying a new character. So you first have to like or identify with the actor themselves in some way to be able to accept them in these roles.. same with schwarzenegger, willis, gibson etc.. The only movie I ever though cruse did a good job in was Legend because success of cruise playing cruise had not sunken in and Tim Curry... Which beings about the other part.. the supporting actors MAKE those types of movies work as much as or more than the star does.
Also, on Keanu Reeves.. it doesn't matter how good a job he does, how good the movie is... the second he is in frame I HAVE To say
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps2G3c6lv0k[/youtube]
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:29 am
by Iommic Pope
Megan Fox has toe thumbs, vid. Hows that gonna work for hand jobs? You gonna kill two birds with one stone and call it a foot fetish as well?
Also Tom Cruise didnt suck in Last Samurai.
Edit: damn phone missed my whole point autocorrecting.
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:10 am
by oscillateur
I don't think 2017 can be such a great movie year with both Kong Skull Island and that Luc Besson piece of trash in there...
I watched (most of ?) the Kong movie in the airplane recently and even by airplane movie standards it was utter crap. I think I only kept watching because of John C Reilly but even him couldn't save that thing...
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:49 am
by Invisible Man
You mean valerian? Plz don't tell me it's bad.
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:02 am
by jrfox92
Iommic Pope wrote:Megan Fox has toe thumbs, vid.
This is one of the reasons people genuinely believed I was related to her after Transformers released.
I have clubbed thumbs.
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:12 am
by jrfox92
I doubt it.
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:48 pm
by Blackened Soul
vidret wrote:Blackened Soul wrote:
All those movies you could have replaced him with many other action type actors and they would have been as good or better, he like a lot of other actors of his type are only good at playing themselves playing: angry or cocky or badass or confused or whatever the key emotion the role dictates, not actually protraying a new character. So you first have to like or identify with the actor themselves in some way to be able to accept them in these roles.. same with schwarzenegger, willis, gibson etc..
I mean, I disagree. 'Collateral' isn't his good ol' jerry maguire, for example.
So you're saying:
tom cruise
arnold schwarzenegger
bruce willis
mel gibson
scarlett johansson
mark wahlberg
are all BAD actors? like BAD bad? I can definitely see that if you don't like the actor him/herself then the movie becomes a hard watch.
Like tobey maguire for me, only thing i could watch him in was 'the ciderhouse rules', but he's not a bad actor, I just don't like it when a movie is relying heavily on him for example as a SUPERHERO.
The only one I MIGHT concede on that list is Arnold, and goddamn if he doesn't fit right in at some points, so it doesn't matter
That's not exactly what I said. You have to take things into context. Except cruise, you are just wrong and nothing you say or do can fix that.
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:12 am
by Jwar
tremolo3 wrote:Let me guess, you guys who think Scarlett Johansson is not a bad actress also think that Keanu Reeves is not bad either?
How about Mark Wahlberg, Paul Walker and Megan Fox?
You are spot the fuck on dude. Except Mark can be good in some stuff. Good actor however? Not the best IMO. He's best in half baked roles but I actually liked him in some stuff. However Boogie Nights was fucking terrible. Keanu is amazingly bad. Megan Fox is good looking, that's about all you can say there. Paul Walker. Just LOL. That's all.
Add in fucking Colin Farrel and John Cusack and you'd have a list of some of the worst movies ever made.
I will say I like Colin Farrel in Fright Night and there was one action film I can't recall that he was ok in.
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:05 pm
by neonblack
He was good in In Bruges and he was GREAT in The Lobster.
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:13 pm
by jrfox92
Colin Farrell is my favorite CIA agent.
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:14 pm
by Jwar
vidret wrote:i don't think you guys have seen enough movies, or enough bad movies.
colin farrell is at times a great actor; in bruges, tigerland, the lobster, the way back, seven psychopaths.
i'm a pretty harsh critic, there's a fair amount of movies that don't end up over 6/10 for me, but you guys are saying actors that consistently are leads in movies that are 7's or 8's are bad actors.
i know art is subjective, but that's subjective as fuck.
Dude, I've seen a metric fuck ton of movies. LOL. I just don't like certain actors and actresses. I find some overrated and others underrated. Just because someone is a lead in a role does not mean they are the best. I mean, look at Keanu Reeves for instance. Can you tell me one good movie that man was in besides John Wick and maybe The Devil's Advocate? To me, he is literally one of the worst actors in Hollywood. I can't stand that dude. I give him a pass on a few just like I did Colin, but fuck the rest. If you say the Matrix, I'll lose respect for you all together though because that shit was whack as fuck.
It's like Ben Asslick. GOD DAMN IT I hate him so much. Gone Girl was probably the ONLY good movie he's ever been in. I kind of liked Chasing Amy, but he's still meh.
The thing about him and some of the others is that they could be switched with any other actor in their roles and you'd never notice. They suck that hard.
Now if you took someone like Christian Bale, oh my man crush is strong with him, you couldn't take him out of a role and put someone else there. He owns that shit. He makes the roles his own. These two clowns however are shitty bitches. SHITTY BITCHES!!!!!!!! LOL
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:42 pm
by jrfox92
jwar wrote: 
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:36 pm
by Blackened Soul
vidret wrote:i don't think you guys have seen enough movies, or enough bad movies.
colin farrell is at times a great actor; in bruges, tigerland, the lobster, the way back, seven psychopaths.
i'm a pretty harsh critic, there's a fair amount of movies that don't end up over 6/10 for me, but you guys are saying actors that consistently are leads in movies that are 7's or 8's are bad actors.
i know art is subjective, but that's subjective as fuck.
yeah.. it's more I have seen so many movies I am more jaded than you could ever dream of jaba
And.. no seven psychopaths was dumb, not even Christopher Walken could save it.
jwar wrote:vidret wrote:i don't think you guys have seen enough movies, or enough bad movies.
colin farrell is at times a great actor; in bruges, tigerland, the lobster, the way back, seven psychopaths.
i'm a pretty harsh critic, there's a fair amount of movies that don't end up over 6/10 for me, but you guys are saying actors that consistently are leads in movies that are 7's or 8's are bad actors.
i know art is subjective, but that's subjective as fuck.
Dude, I've seen a metric fuck ton of movies. LOL. I just don't like certain actors and actresses. I find some overrated and others underrated. Just because someone is a lead in a role does not mean they are the best. I mean, look at Keanu Reeves for instance. Can you tell me one good movie that man was in besides John Wick and maybe The Devil's Advocate? To me, he is literally one of the worst actors in Hollywood. I can't stand that dude. I give him a pass on a few just like I did Colin, but fuck the rest. If you say the Matrix, I'll lose respect for you all together though because that shit was whack as fuck.
It's like Ben Asslick. GOD DAMN IT I hate him so much. Gone Girl was probably the ONLY good movie he's ever been in. I kind of liked Chasing Amy, but he's still meh.
The thing about him and some of the others is that they could be switched with any other actor in their roles and you'd never notice. They suck that hard.
Now if you took someone like Christian Bale, oh my man crush is strong with him, you couldn't take him out of a role and put someone else there. He owns that shit. He makes the roles his own. These two clowns however are shitty bitches. SHITTY BITCHES!!!!!!!! LOL
What wait! the first 15-20 minutes of The Matrix was AWESOME! if they had rolled credits right after the pill it would have been one of the best short films ever
and I hate Bale too.. he sucked as batman [everyone does though] and even American psycho is hard to take after seeing Huey Lewis and Weird Al's parody..
Re: 2017: Great movie year?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:44 pm
by Bloodhammer
My biggest gripe with movies isn't "bad" actors. I can watch just about anybody except for maybe Joaquin Phoenix, and that's only because his portrayal of Johnny Cash made me angry. I still like Buffalo Soldiers, though.
My problem is the tsunami-esque deluge of comic book and other "universe" movies that flood the box offices every year. Do we really need ANOTHER Spiderman, Star Wars, or Alien movie?
Yes, I understand that that's what people want. It seems like those are the movies that most people are anticipating. If I google search "best sci fi movies of *insert year*" those are the movies that usually get the "must see" rating. They're what everyone is talking about. I won't presume to question anyone's tastes. It probably doesn't help that I didn't grow up reading comic books and was always fairly indifferent to Star Wars. I don't have the nostalgia that most people my age have for that sort of stuff.
I still feel a bit insulted by what I perceive as a sort of flaunted cynicism - a more or less "Fuck you. You'll watch it!" attitude coming from the so-called "industry". It's a tired argument for sure, and whether it's buddy cops or superheroes, most movies made in any given year will be Hollywood fluff.
However, SIX Batman movies have been made in the last 12 years (if you count "extended universe" movies). SEVEN Spiderman movies have been made in the last fifteen years. If we count television and streaming shows along with movie franchises, it would seem like Marvel and DC have divided up the world between themselves.
Then there's Star Wars.
[/end grouchy old man rant]