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Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:30 am
by jrfox92
Based on the numbers from just the past day following a spike in testing, I have a feeling we'll start seeing martial law declared in the hardest hit states by next week.
Also, I still find it hilarious that the exact same people who've been sucking Trump's dick for the last four years and talking about much they love the military are now buying up guns and threatening to shoot soldiers if they're put under forced quarantine. :whateva:

I've also had a cough for the last week, but I've been mostly isolated outside of short grocery trips for the last month since my dad got out of the hospital, and I can't trust my thermometer's accuracy so I have no idea if it's simply a cough because the HVAC in the house is shitty and I have anxiety or something else. :sick: Worst part is I've been getting the runaround from all the various state/county health departments and hospitals and haven't even talked to a doctor about my symptoms, so that's pretty frustrating.

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:43 am
by Achtane
Yeah, I've been coughing too but it's the nasty mucusy kind caused by my bitch baby allergies to everything. Which also makes it a little more difficult to breathe. Same with my anxiety.

I have to keep telling myself to chill, I'm not dying.

I had a doctor's appointment a week ago and told them that I'd rather not come in if possible, and just get my prescription refilled instead (it's just a blood pressure medication) but they told me that it was recommended that I come in.

So then I'm sitting in the waiting room with a bunch of coughing people for an hour, only to go in for a doctor's recommendation of "don't eat salt, k".
Thanks guys...

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:40 pm
by repoman
Dowi wrote:
A problem that should be considered / and it's starting to be considered here/ is that the number of deaths is not really certain because a lot of elderly people are dying in their homes and retirement homes without being tested, so the mortality rate is approximately less than what is for real.

There is a chance it's just the opposite:

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Average age of death is 80, over 50% have at least 3 pre-existing comorbidities (Myocardial ischemia, Diabetes, Kidney disease, Arteriosclerosis, etc), and Italy has just been chalking up all deaths in hospitals of infected to Covid, meaning the person could have actually died of something else whilst having it.
"The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

"On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three," he says." (Walter Ricciardi, who is the scientific adviser to Roberto Speranza, Italy's minister of health)

Italy has a shitty method for collecting data on Covid deaths.



Out of this study of 481, only 6 had no pre-existing conditions (I would bet they were 75 or older).

Chance of death for under 50 if infected is 0.4%. I'm really curious what that number would be if people with pre-existing condiions were removed, if it is anything like the study posted, would that be 1.2% of 0.4%?

Over 24,000 people died in Italy 2017 of the flu, over 70% dying in flu season (Jan-March). The vast majority of deaths last year occurred in Lombardy. So roughly 16,800 people died in a couple months in the 2017 flu season in Italy. Around 4000 people have died in the past couple months from this one (and that is with Italy's shitty methodology padding the numbers).
I didn't see headlines about Italy having to call in the army to dispose of bodies then...

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:21 pm
by TraceItalian
Folks are protesting social distancing outside of my nearby wal-mart. It boggles the fucking mind Image

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:31 pm
by codetocontra
You should have walked over to them, sneeze, wipe your nose, and put your hand out to shake while saying how much you appreciate what they do.

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:00 pm
by TraceItalian
I gotta Bradord Pear tree in bloom in my yard, so I just wasted a perfectly good use of my allergies/years of chain smoking by not doing that

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:43 pm
by cantremember
If anything this virus has shown us it's how stupid most of the people in the US really are. Its actually pretty embarrassing.

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:59 pm
by Blackened Soul
TraceItalian wrote:Folks are protesting social distancing outside of my nearby wal-mart. It boggles the fucking mind Image
:idk:

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:52 am
by JM Charcot
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Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:34 pm
by K2000
jrfox92 wrote: I've also had a cough for the last week, but I've been mostly isolated outside of short grocery trips for the last month since my dad got out of the hospital, and I can't trust my thermometer's accuracy so I have no idea if it's simply a cough because the HVAC in the house is shitty and I have anxiety or something else. :sick: Worst part is I've been getting the runaround from all the various state/county health departments and hospitals and haven't even talked to a doctor about my symptoms, so that's pretty frustrating.
If you had the virus, I'm pretty sure they would tell you to stay at home and self-quarantine anyway, unless you had trouble breathing or a high fever. (You probably know that).

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:57 pm
by oldangelmidnight
TraceItalian wrote:Folks are protesting social distancing outside of my nearby wal-mart. It boggles the fucking mind Image
Are they Christian scientists?

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:19 pm
by colin
I'm on about day 10 of what I strongly suspect is the coronavirus. Definitely different from any cold I've had before, but still relatively mild. I've had a bit of a fever, persistent dry hacking cough, muscle aches and extremely low energy. Some chest pain and trouble catching my breath at times too. I can see why this would be really dangerous for the elderly or anyone with a pre-existing condition. My wife's had similar symptoms to me, but a bit less severe; and both of my girls have been clearly a bit sick, but fairly minor.

So we've been quarantining at home. Thankfully we have a decent back yard and good weather or my toddler would have driven me crazy by now. The lack of energy really sucks, I was feeling pretty good yesterday so I moved some furniture around the house. Big mistake, I'm just drained and very sore today.

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:19 pm
by sylnau
colin wrote:I'm on about day 10 of what I strongly suspect is the coronavirus. Definitely different from any cold I've had before, but still relatively mild. I've had a bit of a fever, persistent dry hacking cough, muscle aches and extremely low energy. Some chest pain and trouble catching my breath at times too. I can see why this would be really dangerous for the elderly or anyone with a pre-existing condition. My wife's had similar symptoms to me, but a bit less severe; and both of my girls have been clearly a bit sick, but fairly minor.

So we've been quarantining at home. Thankfully we have a decent back yard and good weather or my toddler would have driven me crazy by now. The lack of energy really sucks, I was feeling pretty good yesterday so I moved some furniture around the house. Big mistake, I'm just drained and very sore today.
So sorry to hear… hope you'll be well soon. These's day I continue to go to work… but stop everything else… no hiking… nothing… It feel alone at home on the weekend. We'll go through this!

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:15 pm
by TraceItalian
Welp, I'm out of the job for 2 weeks, heres hoping I got something to go back to at the end

Re: It's virus time, guyz. Welcome to Pandemic.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:04 pm
by jrfox92
K2000 wrote:
jrfox92 wrote: I've also had a cough for the last week, but I've been mostly isolated outside of short grocery trips for the last month since my dad got out of the hospital, and I can't trust my thermometer's accuracy so I have no idea if it's simply a cough because the HVAC in the house is shitty and I have anxiety or something else. :sick: Worst part is I've been getting the runaround from all the various state/county health departments and hospitals and haven't even talked to a doctor about my symptoms, so that's pretty frustrating.
If you had the virus, I'm pretty sure they would tell you to stay at home and self-quarantine anyway, unless you had trouble breathing or a high fever. (You probably know that).
The issue isn't me being sick, it's that if I'm sick, my dad's sick. And if he gets sick it'll probably kill him, so knowing for a fact whether he's been exposed would be a big step towards preventing his early death.
So far we've been almost totally isolated for a month, and my "symptoms" ebb and flow each day, so I'm hoping it's just related to the air quality and maybe being dehydrated than the virus.