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Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:53 am
by nshuman
If she kind of copies or very slightly modifies Devi Ever designs she no longer owns or has rights to, does that mean that she becomes JHS? Maybe it's a performance art piece she is doing: "The Builder formerly known as Devi Ever becomes JHS; the caterpillar enters the cocoon and emerges as the beast".
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:59 am
by rainlet
I wonder about the wording of the non-compete. If it just stated that she wouldn't attempt to build pedals under the Devi Ever name, I guess going back to the old E13 name is a loophole. I can't imagine that something that obvious would slip through when drawing up that document though. If it's more airtight than that, then this is some real shit.
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:37 am
by Teej212
Non competes generally prevent the other person from entering into a similar business. That's my general understanding and what I assume the non compete agreement was
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:37 am
by KaosCill8r
Iommic Pope wrote:KaosCill8r wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing how all this plays out. I am sure there is going to be some laughs to be had. Let the fun and games commence. I love a good shitfight.

As long as you steer clear of the shit, its all entertaining.
Hell yeah dude, will definately be staying out of the way of the shit. I just like to watch.
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:41 am
by Jwar
deviever wrote:I was gonna answer questions if anyone had any, but then I saw all the drama and yeah... you guys can reach me on facebook if ya want... lol.
My personal page :
https://www.facebook.com/PTSTD
the E13 one is already posted on the first post of this thread...
I shouldn't be surprised you guys still lust after so much drama, but yeah....
I'll leave ya with this.
Later masturbaters.
[video removed]
Enjoy your 16 page thread of garbage.

Devi, here's the thing about this whole company. Now if you're intention isn't to directly compete with a company that bought you out, why use the name that you used before Devi Ever? I mean, you have enough followers. Why not call it something else? Anything else? I'm being serious. No drama. Just a question.
Also, instead of calling us masturbaters and smearing us as usual, why not say your piece and ignore said drama?
Granted, you didn't reply like you used to, so I'm rather surprised at that. Glad in fact because shit storms like this I don't like.
None of this is any of my business or any of ours in fact except for those directly involved. That being said I love Ben and Louise, they are great people. I just hope this isn't somehow an attempt to hurt them. That I personally wouldn't stand for.
You make cool stuff, there's no doubt about that. I just think maybe there's a better way or perhaps even licensing out your ideas for another company to build and you make money on.
Again, no idea how your non compete is written, and I know they can be various as I've signed them many times. As far as I've seen though, this would be a breach of the non compete and a legal matter. Which sucks. No one needs that.
I'm not going to be a party to this thread. I'm supporting my friends. You were very nice to me too at one point Devi, so I will let sleeping dogs lie. So carry on, I'm done.
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:46 am
by Iommic Pope
I would imagine that as the previous business entity was linked exclusively to her name, starting up E13 again (a similar business, directly involved in building the same product, with what is arguably a similar demographic of potential customer base) and registering it in the same name would probably prove to be a violation of contract. Like you said though, all in the specific terms.
Time to lawyer up, I'd say. Not that anyone would really want to see it come to that.
I didn't come in here to stir shit up either, just to discuss what may be involved legally.
In which case, I share jwar's sentiments.
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:31 am
by finboy
That is extremely poor taste if she is trying to build pedals that will compete with the dc line.
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:45 am
by insubordination
finboy wrote:That is extremely poor taste
Goes without saying with her. A lot of forgiveness being shown here for someone who has blatantly lied, manipulated and taken money from the gear community without delivering anything.
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:54 am
by tashiattack
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:54 am
by sylnau
I'm glad I didn't put my money in the console.
And I'll do the same for E13 for the same reason.
This should not be forgotten.
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:57 am
by Sparrow
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:59 am
by sylnau
Re: Effector 13 Is Back
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:00 pm
by Dungus
hey what's wrong with 'batin'?