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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:21 pm
by skullservant
As much as it slays you don't need it AA
Especially with the Floyd man, that's gotta be a headache
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:24 pm
by LOCOPELAND
AxAxSxS wrote:That settles it. Tony you're coming with!!!
Checking with the warden (aka wife) now...will have a definitive answer soon. But Sunday is a-go!
Darren, is the show 21+?
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:26 pm
by AngryGoldfish
Skip, you can always block a Floyd Rose and intonate as standard for Drop A. The locking nut holds the tuning well and the fine-tuners allow for quick tuning tweaks when you take the guitar into a different climate/temperature.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:27 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
skullservant wrote:As much as it slays you don't need it AA
Especially with the Floyd man, that's gotta be a headache
Damn you and your voice of reason.....
AngryGoldfish wrote:Skip, you can always block a Floyd Rose and intonate as standard for Drop A. The locking nut holds the tuning well and the fine-tuners allow for quick tuning tweaks when you take the guitar into a different climate/temperature.
I was thinking I could use a tremol-no to keep the bridge fixed, at which point I could set it up easily. Still a bummer though.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:28 pm
by ridingeternity
I have a Floyd Rose setup for C standard which is...close, perfect tension and intonation on a 26.5" scale with: .58, .44, .32, .18, .14, .11...Im pretty sure most 24 fret Floyd Rose guitar necks are 26.5" scale which is pretty close to baritone, at least closer than the Gibson 24.5, but I imagine you could throw a set starting at either .60 or .62 on there and get to Drop A just fine, just make sure to grab some sort of trem locking/setting device to go with it.
It's not that its impossible to detune a floyd...it just takes a lot of patience, if you end up grabbing it i'd be happy to make recommendations in adjustments once you get it down low and would even be willing to share my tried and true method of a perfect floyd setup every time in under 30 minutes once you get it dialed to the string gauge you are gonna use.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:30 pm
by ridingeternity
Ancient Astronaught wrote:
I was thinking I could use a tremol-no to keep the bridge fixed, at which point I could set it up easily. Still a bummer though.
That's exactly what I use...I am seeking a Les Paul right now for the same reason...just a headache to getting floyds dialed in for lower tunings, but the tremol-no will make this goal much more reachable if you decide to grab that guit.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:34 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
If I did end up getting it I would definitely throw the Temol-no on there and actually probably .14-.68's or .14-.72's like I used on my 27" Baritone Jaguar in Drop G. Most Monson's are 25.5" scale length, and the lowest i've been able to intonate on a 25.5 is drop A even though i'd prefer to go drop G again.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:36 pm
by AngryGoldfish
ridingeternity wrote:I have a Floyd Rose setup for C standard which is...close, perfect tension and intonation on a 26.5" scale with: .58, .44, .32, .18, .14, .11...Im pretty sure most 24 fret Floyd Rose guitar necks are 26.5" scale which is pretty close to baritone, at least closer than the Gibson 24.5, but I imagine you could throw a set starting at either .60 or .62 on there and get to Drop A just fine, just make sure to grab some sort of trem locking/setting device to go with it.
It's not that its impossible to detune a floyd...it just takes a lot of patience, if you end up grabbing it i'd be happy to make recommendations in adjustments once you get it down low and would even be willing to share my tried and true method of a perfect floyd setup every time in under 30 minutes once you get it dialed to the string gauge you are gonna use.
26.5" is considered baritone or extended scale. Most Floyd Rose-equipped guitars, such as Ibanez and ESP, are a traditional Fender scale of 25.5".
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:36 pm
by ridingeternity
AngryGoldfish wrote:Skip, you can always block a Floyd Rose and intonate as standard for Drop A. The locking nut holds the tuning well and the fine-tuners allow for quick tuning tweaks when you take the guitar into a different climate/temperature.
Yes, exactly! Also it's nice only having to tune once every other week, another desirable aspect is that strings ONLY break at the bridge, so if you leave yourself some extra wrap and keep your tools handy at a gig...you can replace it super quick! Have had this happen before and the bassist and drummer only had to carry the part for about 45 seconds before the string was back to normal and everything tuned back up(which if you keep the trem block 100% of the time you pretty much will only have to tune the broken string...floating though...this method can get tricky)
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:39 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
Why am I even considering this when if I buy another guitar I want another 8 string....
Damn you ADHD mind!!!!! Shiny things bad!!!! No touch!!!
If i'm gonna go low I'm gonna go as low as I can go, that and I miss my old Agile Intrepid in octave down drop D
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:40 pm
by ridingeternity
AngryGoldfish wrote:26.5" is considered baritone or extended scale. Most Floyd Rose-equipped guitars, such as Ibanez and ESP, are a traditional Fender scale of 25.5".
Please excuse the fallacy...this is probably the reason why my floyd equipped guit has been the only one I can stomach for more than 5 minutes.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:41 pm
by new05002
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:53 pm
by nightterrors
Just when I was thinking about not getting/needing a phaser...
Man oh man. IT NEVER ENDS.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:59 pm
by AxAxSxS
Man I love Floyds. Once you get the hang of how they work and are set up it's a great system. Super fast to deal with any issues and even if you float the bridge as long as you replace a string with the same gauge/brand 90 of the time the rest of the strings stay perfectly in tune. Tuning stability overall is amazing. I had a dean with a floyd I never played and had not touched literally in about 3 years. when I went to clean it up and tune it for sale it was still perfectly in tune. Don't be Skurred!
The only reason I don't use one now is I'm playing 12 strings pretty exclusively. I'f they made Floyds for 12's one would be on there though.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:05 pm
by D-Day
LOCOPELAND wrote:Darren, is the show 21+?
Yep!
