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Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:14 pm
by echorec
01010111 wrote:Generally speaking musicians can’t afford to spend a lot of money, so, they use what’s available. And that’s the way it’s always been.
For much of human history the working poor were not afforded the luxury of indulging in recreational activities like pursuing music. Therefore musicians tended to be people of greater affluence and financial standing. In the 1600s, the children of farmers were too busy sewing and farming to be dumpster-diving for violas and mandolins. To suggest a rather recent development is how "it's always been" is categorically ridiculous.
01010111 wrote:You’re raising a few exceptions to what I’ve said to try and prove a generic statement is false.
A few exceptions?

You threw out centuries of history prior to 1960. Are you some kind of trash-man time traveler? Do you deny that human beings inhabited this planet prior to 1960? No matter how you try to spin it, neither Handel, Haydn, Tchaikovsky, or Rachmaninoff composed on Casios and Fisher Price pony pianos.

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:35 am
by Zijnzijn Zijnzijn!
Inconuucl wrote:The Eristic wrote:Aghartha wrote:This makes me wonder though, are their any other pedal-sized amps with a full EQ? I tried a Quilter and wasn't into it.
Demeter Pedalboard Amp, Traynor Quarterhorse, that balls expensive Taurus thing, Amp1, a few others. None of them are the size of a standard 4-knob pedal, though.
Or just get a preamp pedal and a cab sim like the Digitech Cabdryvr or the Neunaber Iconoclast, it's what I do.

I've been meaning to go this route for a bit. Been going into a DI and into a PA, which works well enough but is too sterile for me. Do you use both the Digitech and the Neunaber at the same time?
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:43 am
by Inconuucl
Zijnzijn Zijnzijn! wrote:Inconuucl wrote:The Eristic wrote:Aghartha wrote:This makes me wonder though, are their any other pedal-sized amps with a full EQ? I tried a Quilter and wasn't into it.
Demeter Pedalboard Amp, Traynor Quarterhorse, that balls expensive Taurus thing, Amp1, a few others. None of them are the size of a standard 4-knob pedal, though.
Or just get a preamp pedal and a cab sim like the Digitech Cabdryvr or the Neunaber Iconoclast, it's what I do.

I've been meaning to go this route for a bit. Been going into a DI and into a PA, which works well enough but is too sterile for me. Do you use both the Digitech and the Neunaber at the same time?
I use a Pretty Years into the Iconoclast actually, I've been looking at actual preamps though. The Mooer preamp series look killer, so that's what I'll probably end up with. Although something more Booteek like the Aion Electronics L5 clone or the Okko Cocaine look amazing too.

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:48 am
by echorec
Aghartha wrote:I think that Milkman pedalamp is a pretty neat idea, but I think I'd need a huge board for it to fit.
This makes me wonder though, are their any other pedal-sized amps with a full EQ? I tried a Quilter and wasn't into it.
You can certainly build a nasty little amp head in pedal size, but the transformers will need to go in a secondary enclosure. After seeing the Zvex Nano, a friend of mine built up several circa 2004. (about 7" x 4")
As far as the Milkman sound, that and the Tone King are the two best amps I've heard in-person. I imagine if the Milkman was going to become someone's main amp, then the $800 asking price makes a bit more sense. A tube amp-reverb-tremolo combo isn't bad as a 3-for-1 bundle.
If you really just want an amp-in-a-box for saturation, like Inconuucl said, there's definitely some solid and cheaper alternatives (which you may or may not have already tried). I use a Tech 21 Leeds (Hiwatt) for direct recordings. I also bought their Vox and their Orange, but I returned them after I heard the Leeds.
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:49 am
by reckon luck
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:49 am
by Inconuucl
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:30 am
by dozicusmaximus
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:30 am
by echorec
I wonder how many feline cadavers one has to trade in at the swap meet to afford one of these.

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:33 am
by echorec
coming to a GC near you....

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:49 am
by Dandolin
echorec wrote:
I wonder how many feline cadavers one has to trade in at the swap meet to afford one of these.

Not sure going rate cat cadavers e.d. page said 249USD though?
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:56 am
by Inconuucl
Lol, I just realized it's 18v only.
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:06 pm
by $harkToootth
Inconuucl wrote:Lol, I just realized it's 18v only.
I read a power supply will be included. I have noticed most companies do include a supply if it is outside the 'standard' 9VDC.
That said my brick supply has a slot for 18V as well. Is this standard? I also have 2 18v supplies from another pedal.
Alas...I don't want this pedal

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:28 pm
by lumena
echorec wrote:01010111 wrote:Generally speaking musicians can’t afford to spend a lot of money, so, they use what’s available. And that’s the way it’s always been.
For much of human history the working poor were not afforded the luxury of indulging in recreational activities like pursuing music. Therefore musicians tended to be people of greater affluence and financial standing. In the 1600s, the children of farmers were too busy sewing and farming to be dumpster-diving for violas and mandolins. To suggest a rather recent development is how "it's always been" is categorically ridiculous.
01010111 wrote:You’re raising a few exceptions to what I’ve said to try and prove a generic statement is false.
A few exceptions?

You threw out centuries of history prior to 1960. Are you some kind of trash-man time traveler? Do you deny that human beings inhabited this planet prior to 1960? No matter how you try to spin it, neither Handel, Haydn, Tchaikovsky, or Rachmaninoff composed on Casios and Fisher Price pony pianos.

Not really sure that is a correct hypothesis ...Here we see a painting from Mozart probably when he was living in London in 1765.
As we can deduce from this image not all artists were confined to acoustic instruments. Granted Mozart was an exception being educated in various royal courts.
Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:31 pm
by Inconuucl
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AQbvAgmur0[/youtube]
What the fuck. This is the type of dumb content I signed up for.

Re: Winter NAMM / 2018 notes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:34 pm
by Inconuucl
Now that I finished the video, it's a shit demo. I want to hear something more cut and dry, or knobs, this seems like something they'd be into.