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Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:53 pm
by fishtankdork
the amount of times you said brian all i can think of is charlie from its always sunny "carol, caroll, carrrrrooollllllllllllllllllllllll"
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:20 am
by brian m
o hai!
Saw this earlier today, but didn't want to respond on my phone.
We'll have a video up next week and another the week after.
There are three basic modes set by the tracking switch. low tracking, null and high tracking. Null doesn't track at all.
The Entropy switch basically makes it easy to use live (order) or allows more tweaking (chaos)
The reference to the Vitruvian man (and vitruvius) is about ratios. If you know the story Vitruvius thought you could find inspiration in design from perfect ratios found in nature. The Vitruvian Mod's tracking modes are set to frequencies of "perfect" harmony, where both the sum and difference frequencies of the ring modulation harmonize with the input. the harmonization is mathematically correct rather than chromatically. It's based off just intonation instead, where all notes are based off overtones/harmonics. The end result is something that sounds similar to FM synthesis although it's accomplished in a very different way. There actually were ring modulation synthesizers built in the 40's and 50's. I can't even imagine what a pain in the ass they would be to use.
So it's a ring mod that's also kind of a synth pedal. Tracking is monophonic. It sounds fantastic followed by dirt.
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:30 am
by backwardsvoyager
Such a great idea!
Can't wait for the vid.
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:59 am
by goroth
brian m wrote:So it's a ring mod that's also kind of a synth pedal. Tracking is monophonic. It sounds fantastic followed by dirt.
Holy Santa Claus shit!
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:26 am
by coldbrightsunlight
hmmmmmmm.... maybe this is a ring mod I could really jive with... Definitely sounds interesting and I want to see a real demo!
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:45 am
by Chankgeez
brian m wrote:The reference to the Vitruvian man (and vitruvius) is about ratios. If you know the story Vitruvius thought you could find inspiration in design from perfect ratios found in nature. The Vitruvian Mod's tracking modes are set to frequencies of "perfect" harmony, where both the sum and difference frequencies of the ring modulation harmonize with the input. the harmonization is mathematically correct rather than chromatically. It's based off just intonation instead, where all notes are based off overtones/harmonics. The end result is something that sounds similar to FM synthesis although it's accomplished in a very different way. There actually were ring modulation synthesizers built in the 40's and 50's. I can't even imagine what a pain in the ass they would be to use.
Can't wait to hear more.
So, does this mean we'll also be getting a Palladian pedal soon?
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:44 pm
by brian m
Here's a rough clip. The compression is all screwed up for some reason. I'll figure that out later.
All sounds made by guitar, with the exception of drums and the voice clips. Supernova drive was used for dirt.
[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/subdecay-1/subdecay-vitruvian-mod-ring[/soundcloud]
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:29 pm
by zRobertez
WOW
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:05 pm
by backwardsvoyager
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:16 pm
by goroth
Wooo!
That sounded almost PLL-ish at times.
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:21 pm
by AngryGoldfish
brian m wrote:o hai!
Saw this earlier today, but didn't want to respond on my phone.
We'll have a video up next week and another the week after.
There are three basic modes set by the tracking switch. low tracking, null and high tracking. Null doesn't track at all.
The Entropy switch basically makes it easy to use live (order) or allows more tweaking (chaos)
The reference to the Vitruvian man (and vitruvius) is about ratios. If you know the story Vitruvius thought you could find inspiration in design from perfect ratios found in nature. The Vitruvian Mod's tracking modes are set to frequencies of "perfect" harmony, where both the sum and difference frequencies of the ring modulation harmonize with the input. the harmonization is mathematically correct rather than chromatically. It's based off just intonation instead, where all notes are based off overtones/harmonics. The end result is something that sounds similar to FM synthesis although it's accomplished in a very different way. There actually were ring modulation synthesizers built in the 40's and 50's. I can't even imagine what a pain in the ass they would be to use.
So it's a ring mod that's also kind of a synth pedal. Tracking is monophonic. It sounds fantastic followed by dirt.
I want to look up this Vitruvius story because of this pedal.
The two demos sound awesome, totally.
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:49 pm
by 9520575
Subdecay fan boy reporting for duty
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:30 pm
by MrNovember
I really wish I had heard clips of that ring mod before they all disappeared from here - or are they just not showing up on my phone?
Either way, excited to hear this!
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:26 pm
by goroth
They don't show up on a phone.
Re: New Subdecay - but what???
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:53 pm
by brian m
This should show up on a phone
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRrYzhawanQ[/youtube]